“DCP” wrote:noel: "More Good Foundation Provo UT - $538,950
"FairMormon - Foundation for apologetic information & research(Scott Gordon) - $13,401
"The Book of Mormon Foundation - $18,900"
Fine, Noel. But do you know what those numbers are? And do you have a source that somebody can examine? Are these numbers the same kind of thing as the Sunstone and Dehlin numbers? I honestly don't know.
Good heavens. They’re numbers from the very same official pandemicoversight.gov link that DCP included in his blog post. Headed by Michael E. Horowitz- Inspector General of the Department of Justice.
“DCP” wrote:noel: "More Good Foundation Provo UT - $538,950
"FairMormon - Foundation for apologetic information & research(Scott Gordon) - $13,401
"The Book of Mormon Foundation - $18,900"
Fine, Noel. But do you know what those numbers are? And do you have a source that somebody can examine? Are these numbers the same kind of thing as the Sunstone and Dehlin numbers? I honestly don't know.
Good heavens. They’re numbers from the very same official pandemicoversight.gov link that DCP included in his blog post. Headed by Michael E. Horowitz- Inspector General of the Department of Justice.
I honestly don’t know how Dan can be so clueless.
I was sent a link yesterday to something that, the sender says, shows that John Dehlin and his efforts against the Church receive federal funding to the tune of $46,728 during one year. (See here.) And, just this morning, the same person forwarded a link on to me that, it is suggested, indicates that the Sunstone Foundation, a “liberal” to dissenting to outright apostate organization on the fringe of the Church (whose Executive Director is paid $85,000 per year and served as the “historical consultant” to the hit Netflix miniseries American Primeval), received $65,000 from American taxpayers. (See here.)
I’m not actually sure what to make of the items that were sent to me but, if the claim is accurate that they received money from USAID — which, I confess, seems really bizarre to me, since I have known USAID only as an (admittedly rather inefficient, ham handed, and ineffective) foreign aid operation overseas — that would be both massively outrageous and neatly illustrative of the tilted playing field upon which defenders of the Church are obliged to operate.
What he claims is a tilted playing field is in fact a playing field as flat as a pancake. And Noel is trying to point that out to him.
He's unwittingly called FAIR's use of the fund "massively outrageous".
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
“DCP” wrote: noel: "Good heavens. They’re numbers from the very same official http://pandemicoversight.gov link that DCP included in his blog post. Headed by Michael E. Horowitz- Inspector General of the Department of Justice.
I honestly don’t know how Dan can be so clueless."
noel, you should at least devise your own insults, rather than -- as you do above -- quoting dumb-dud (over at the Peterson Obsession Board) verbatim and without attribution. (Incidentally, do you recall poor dumb-dud's vow, posted on the Obsession Board about a month ago, that, from then on, he was going to treat me with less contempt? It lasted about five hours or so, probably for the duration of his nap. Scarcely surprising. Proverbs 26:11.)
Your comment, of course, identified no source for its numbers, gave them no context, and didn't mention either the Department of Justice or Michael E. Horowitz. That would have been helpful.
I was skeptical about the meaning of the numbers in the first place, and I expressly said so. I was fairly confident that there was no real story there, but was curious whether anybody else would pursue the matter and definitively clear it up. That's all. If they're merely about pandemic relief, I have no real further interest.
Proverbs 9:8
"Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you".
Forget love, I’d accept even just a bit of gratitude for fact-checking DCP’s gleefully hasty blog on Lindsay Hansen Park and John Dehlin. The feeling of joy that he might have stumbled on another takedown must have been palpable.
I was skeptical about the meaning of the numbers in the first place, and I expressly said so. I was fairly confident that there was no real story there, but was curious whether anybody else would pursue the matter and definitively clear it up. That's all. If they're merely about pandemic relief, I have no real further interest.
Desperately drawing a target around where his arrow fell.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
I was skeptical about the meaning of the numbers in the first place, and I expressly said so. I was fairly confident that there was no real story there, but was curious whether anybody else would pursue the matter and definitively clear it up. That's all. If they're merely about pandemic relief, I have no real further interest.
SeN devotees will bear their testimonies that Dr. Peterson did not receive as much lunch money from USAID as Dr. Dehlin. They know this from the spirit of Cleon Skousen personally testifying to them and a firm belief that social help programs vex righteous tithe payers.
