Yes, but thankfully those two countries don't have very big populations.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
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Rough stone rolling. One might expect it will not be a clear cut path. Bumps along the way.That's what large stones due as they go down the hill.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:50 pmYes, but thankfully those two countries don't have very big populations.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
Joseph had his own experience with 'rough stone' rolling. It ain't always pretty.
But what a ride!
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Thankfully the church is going gangbusters in the rest of the world.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
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Not all over. Africa? Yes. Other places here and there? Somewhat.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:21 amThankfully the church is going gangbusters in the rest of the world.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
But not like "gangbusters".
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I'm sure things will turn around.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
"Trends point to continued underperformance of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints compared to its competitors. While a range of possibilities exist, the default path is for further decline of growth rates. The LDS Church is unlikely to regain its former growth trajectory. Prospects of becoming a major world faith have faded and are likely beyond reach." Journal of the Mormon Social Science Association entitled: The End of Growth? Fading Prospects for Latter-day Saint Expansion
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I think it will be more or less hit and miss.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:42 amI'm sure things will turn around.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
Also, I'm convinced the work will go forth and 'no unhallowed hand' will stop the work from progressing. On that point it looks like we may be in agreement.
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I kinda feel cheated by what has transpired since I was in my ward in the mid-70's listening to an Apostle crow about the growth and how we were certainly going to hit exponential growth at any time .... I was ready to go through a brick wall for the "truth" at the time ... too bad those naysayers found out the historical truth. It just goes to show how a handful can turn a population away from a nonsense narrative by just publishing the truth. It also shows how insidious a group can be when it forces a nonsense narrative on a gullible population and demands, coerces family pressure to believe the nonsense.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:42 amI'm sure things will turn around.Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 amThings are not going well for the Daniel prophecy. First Russia, and now China.
"Trends point to continued underperformance of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints compared to its competitors. While a range of possibilities exist, the default path is for further decline of growth rates. The LDS Church is unlikely to regain its former growth trajectory. Prospects of becoming a major world faith have faded and are likely beyond reach." Journal of the Mormon Social Science Association entitled: The End of Growth? Fading Prospects for Latter-day Saint Expansion
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Damn that internet! I guess the prophet didn't see that one coming.Dr Exiled wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:53 amI kinda feel cheated by what has transpired since I was in my ward in the mid-70's listening to an Apostle crow about the growth and how we were certainly going to hit exponential growth at any time .... I was ready to go through a brick wall for the "truth" at the time ... too bad those naysayers found out the historical truth. It just goes to show how a handful can turn a population away from a nonsense narrative by just publishing the truth. It also shows how insidious a group can be when it forces a nonsense narrative on a gullible population and demands, coerces family pressure to believe the nonsense.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:42 am
I'm sure things will turn around.
"Trends point to continued underperformance of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints compared to its competitors. While a range of possibilities exist, the default path is for further decline of growth rates. The LDS Church is unlikely to regain its former growth trajectory. Prospects of becoming a major world faith have faded and are likely beyond reach." Journal of the Mormon Social Science Association entitled: The End of Growth? Fading Prospects for Latter-day Saint Expansion
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Hinckley must have been worrying too much about 60 minutes appearances in the 90's to hear Jesus telling him to shut down the internet, shut down Google.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:00 amDamn that internet! I guess the prophet didn't see that one coming.Dr Exiled wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:53 am
I kinda feel cheated by what has transpired since I was in my ward in the mid-70's listening to an Apostle crow about the growth and how we were certainly going to hit exponential growth at any time .... I was ready to go through a brick wall for the "truth" at the time ... too bad those naysayers found out the historical truth. It just goes to show how a handful can turn a population away from a nonsense narrative by just publishing the truth. It also shows how insidious a group can be when it forces a nonsense narrative on a gullible population and demands, coerces family pressure to believe the nonsense.
ETA: I heard a voice .... "Go down Jehovah and Michael and command the man Adam to shut down the freaking internet before it kills my choice narrative. Surely Satan hath commandeered the Joseph Smith tapes we made in the Celestial Kingdom and he will surely post them."
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