My wifes grandfather just passed away

[_Mercury]

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Vegas, I know that you have strong feelings against the Church, but do you believe in life after death? If this is too painful a time to talk about this, I understand. I just don't think that abandoning Mormonism needs to mean that you have to abandon all beliefs of a higher power, and a life to come after this one.

Leave it up to a believer to whore for the god delusion at a time like this.

I apologize. That really wasn't what I was trying to do.

Its how it came acrost to me. I'm brash with everyone I comunicate with. Aspergers maybee, who knows.

If it came across that way, again, I sincerely apologize.

No need to.

Since my verdict is still out about what to believe and what not to believe, I have a lot of mixed feeling surrounding this.

My philosophy is to not let the fear of the unknown control my life so I can actually live my life. No one knows what will happen to our conscious self when our brains stop functioning. I tend not to worry about things out of my control that I have no data on.

I have lost loved ones, and honestly do hope that there is some type of afterlife because I do miss them, and would love to someday see them again.

Have you considered that wishing for things you find comforting yet have no data on is counterproductive?

For me, believing that something exists beyond our time here does give me a sense of comfort. I think that is a big part of what religion does.

True. Comfort makes one docile and complacent. Pedophiles use this to create an atmosphere of acceptance in their victims. So does religion.

I honestly did not know your stance on life after death, which is why I asked the question. However, I agree. The timing was inappropriate. Again, I apologize.

None needed. Remember, Aspergers. (not really...i haven't been diagnosed with anything)

I do hope that things go well for you, your wife, and your family during this difficult time.

Thanks. Though surprisingly my wife is no different than she was two days ago.

Smoking opium and religion have very similar effects.

[_asbestosman]

None needed. Remember, Aspergers. (not really...i haven't been diagnosed with anything)

Well, people do call it the geek syndrome. As a fellow techie, I can definately relate. My parents suspect I have it, but I have not been diagnosed with anything.

[_wenglund]

Vegas, I know that you have strong feelings against the Church, but do you believe in life after death? If this is too painful a time to talk about this, I understand. I just don't think that abandoning Mormonism needs to mean that you have to abandon all beliefs of a higher power, and a life to come after this one.

Leave it up to a believer to whore for the god delusion at a time like this.

It says much about a man who, instead of rightfully dignifying and honoring the life of those who have passed on, is willing to exploit his wife's grandfather's death in his sustained effort to bash religion.

Not only that, but he turns sincere attempts to respectfully consol into another stick with which to beat religionist over the head with.

This isn't just a function of cognitive distortion. It is downright sick and twisted.

My heartfelt condolences, though, to your wife and your wife's family, not only at the passing of a loved on (and a nice man at that), but also for the loss in not having you there to graciously support and uplift them in this time of sorrow and grief, but finding you instead spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Mercury]

Vegas, I know that you have strong feelings against the Church, but do you believe in life after death? If this is too painful a time to talk about this, I understand. I just don't think that abandoning Mormonism needs to mean that you have to abandon all beliefs of a higher power, and a life to come after this one.

Leave it up to a believer to whore for the god delusion at a time like this.

It says much about a man who, instead of rightfully dignifying and honoring the life of those who have passed on, is willing to exploit his wife's grandfather's death in his sustained effort to bash religion.

Not only that, but he turns sincere attempts to respectfully consol into another stick with which to beat religionist over the head with.

This isn't just a function of cognitive distortion. It is downright sick and twisted.

My heartfelt condolences, though, to your wife and your wife's family, not only at the passing of a loved on (and a nice man at that), but also for the loss in not having you there to graciously support and uplift them in this time of sorrow and grief, but finding you instead spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, how can I take you seriously at this point.

Still dealing with your closeted self perhaps? Remember, my feelings supercede your opinions.

[_Yoda]

but also for the loss in not having you there to graciously support and uplift them in this time of sorrow and grief, but finding you instead spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear.

Hi Wade. ;)

Although I appreciate you defending my position, I don't think it is fair to say that Vegas is unsupportive of his family. Several times during the thread, he mentioned that he wanted to make sure that his wife was ok. He also stated that his wife's grandfather was a good man, so I think that stating that he is "spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear" is a bit of a stretch.

[_wenglund]

but also for the loss in not having you there to graciously support and uplift them in this time of sorrow and grief, but finding you instead spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear.

Hi Wade. ;)

Although I appreciate you defending my position, I don't think it is fair to say that Vegas is unsupportive of his family. Several times during the thread, he mentioned that he wanted to make sure that his wife was ok. He also stated that his wife's grandfather was a good man, so I think that stating that he is "spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear" is a bit of a stretch.

Hi Liz,

It takes extra-ordinarily high character for you to show this level of kindenss and understanding towards Vegas, particularly following his vile reaction to your loving consolation. I honor you for that.

I only hope that he tqkes you seriously, and it rightly touches his heart and mind for better.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Mercury]

but also for the loss in not having you there to graciously support and uplift them in this time of sorrow and grief, but finding you instead spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear.

Hi Wade. ;)

Although I appreciate you defending my position, I don't think it is fair to say that Vegas is unsupportive of his family. Several times during the thread, he mentioned that he wanted to make sure that his wife was ok. He also stated that his wife's grandfather was a good man, so I think that stating that he is "spitting on the grave of someone they hold dear" is a bit of a stretch.

Hi Liz,

It takes extra-ordinarily high character for you to show this level of kindenss and understanding towards Vegas, particularly following his vile reaction to your loving consolation. I honor you for that.

I only hope that he tqkes you seriously, and it rightly touches his heart and mind for better.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

How about you keep the rather reaching requests for others to share your opinion to yourself.