Missionary Charged, Church being Sued in KY

[_Sam Harris]

What the $*% does freedom of religion have to do with anything? Was this kid one of this mishies spiritual husbands? Wait a minute...the church doesn't like gays. And how can the church say this kid wasn't under its control?

Sick...

[_Gazelam]

I say if this kid is guilty we should go pre-Utah on him, go to the law of good old fashion Deseret and castrate the scumbag.

[_Confed]

If this missionary is guilty, I hope he's punished to the extent possible. But it's probably inappropriate to judge him presently. He denies he's guilty. He's not speaking nor can his companion at the time. This is for understandable legal reasons.

Many times those accused of such crimes are innocent. Many times they are not. Why let our proclivities cloud our judgment. I hope the elder is innocent, but having seen my share of bad apples, I would not be surprised either way. I can say, however, that there's not enough to judge him on now.

If he does turn out to be guilty, the church should also look closely at his partner to see how the abuse could have possibly happened.

[_harmony]

If this missionary is guilty, I hope he's punished to the extent possible. But it's probably inappropriate to judge him presently. He denies he's guilty. He's not speaking nor can his companion at the time. This is for understandable legal reasons.

Many times those accused of such crimes are innocent. Many times they are not. Why let our proclivities cloud our judgment. I hope the elder is innocent, but having seen my share of bad apples, I would not be surprised either way. I can say, however, that there's not enough to judge him on now.

If he does turn out to be guilty, the church should also look closely at his partner to see how the abuse could have possibly happened.

Welcome to the jungle, Confed. :-) How did you happen to find us?

[_Confed]

Hi, thanks.

I'm on a bunch of other boards (computer, legal, photography) but just drifted in. Not sure I'm cut out for it or here, but we'll see. In the case of this young missionary, I'm surprised by the folks that seemingly want his head on a pole without knowing anything about the case. It's why we have courts. As Robert E. Lee said, "Obedience to lawful authority is the foundation of manly character." Part of obedience is to let it run its course. I think many Catholic priests get the wrong end of the stick as well.

Catch ya later.

[_TAK]

actually given the fact that two 19 year olds are often a long way from their MP there is little real controll over them.

Beyond the MP there are Apes, ZLs, a DL much closer and a companion all responsible for monitoring his actions and all church ministers, plus strict guidlines what to he is to do including not being alone. I would say the church had much more control than they wish to admit and predict LDS inc. will role over like a fat pig on this one and settle.

[_harmony]

actually given the fact that two 19 year olds are often a long way from their MP there is little real controll over them.

Beyond the MP there are Apes, ZLs, a DL much closer and a companion all responsible for monitoring his actions and all church ministers, plus strict guidlines what to he is to do including not being alone. I would say the church had much more control than they wish to admit and predict LDS inc. will role over like a fat pig on this one and settle.

Of course they will settle. Fighting it would require them to open the books (remember the case in Multnomah county OR a few years ago? If I recall correctly, the judge ordered the books be delivered to his office, so he could determine monetary value. The church settled immediately)

[_Polygamy Porter]

Why can LDS Inc be held responsible for the actions of a missionary and yet they cannot be held responsible for the actions of their members on September 11th, 1857?

[_ajax18]

Maybe there is a statute of limitations involved? I don't know. Could the families of Sept. 11 victims sue the Islamic sects to which the hijackers belonged? I saw where a California state court awarded a judgment of money to be paid by Suzuki, a Japanese company, to the descendants of Chinese people who had been forced into slave labor during WWII. This only worked because Suzuki had assets in the U.S.