Who has made the biggest contributions to humankind?

[_Mephitus]

oh, oops, hehe.

[_Coggins7]

Interesting thread (and an invitation to some high comedy, in my estimation).

I'm just wondering at the outset though, why would Darwin be a part of this mix? Laying aside any argumentd pro or con about his theory, how has Charles Darwin made "huge advancements in how we treat others, how we care for our world, or bring forth greater compassion, understanding, and healing to each other.? I don't see that his theory has any relation to these concepts.

He has impacted the world, true, but not always for the better.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Loren,

Interesting thread (and an invitation to some high comedy, in my estimation).

It was an invitation to reflect on those who have made a huge difference in our world. Nothing more.

I'm just wondering at the outset though, why would Darwin be a part of this mix?

I think we are only beginning to experience the implications from Darwins discovery. He brought us a truth that is truly revolutionize all of humankind. When we fully comprehend the meaing and depth of evolution we can't quite look at the world the same way.

Laying aside any argumentd pro or con about his theory, how has Charles Darwin made "huge advancements in how we treat others, how we care for our world, or bring forth greater compassion, understanding, and healing to each other.? I don't see that his theory has any relation to these concepts.

I think those who understand evolution, see the world in a new light. All of a sudden the world is not a background for the human. We become united with everything that has gone before. For me there is a new reverence for life, for our planet, and for the human journey.

In addition, knowing how life has come forth, how it continues to evolve gives us a whole new way of understanding biology, anthropology, disease, etc. etc. etc.

He has impacted the world, true, but not always for the better.

I hold to the idea that truth is ultimately good. Knowledge and understanding of our world and each other is a good thing in my opinion.

~dancer~

[_Coggins7]

Ronald Reagan would have to top any list of such people, at least in the modern era. Immidiately following him (not necessarily in any chronological order) would have to be F.A. Heyek and Ludwig Von Mises, C.S. Lewis, Balynt Vasyoni, Pope John Paul, Lech Walensa, Milton Friedman, William Buckley, Chesterton, Abraham Maslow (with reservations) and so many others. People like Armando Valladares. come to mind, who have endured the worst Communism that dish out and survived to warn the west of its realies and stand of a symbol of the preserverance of the human spirity against tynanny. Of course, standing over all these are Joseh Smith and, at the apogee of the qualities specified, Jesus Christ, who has done more for humanity than any combination of humanity could conceive, yet alone accomplish.

[_guy sajer]

Ronald Reagan would have to top any list of such people, at least in the modern era. Immidiately following him (not necessarily in any chronological order) would have to be F.A. Heyek and Ludwig Von Mises, C.S. Lewis, Balynt Vasyoni, Pope John Paul, Lech Walensa, Milton Friedman, William Buckley, Chesterton, Abraham Maslow (with reservations) and so many others. People like Armando Valladares. come to mind, who have endured the worst Communism that dish out and survived to warn the west of its realies and stand of a symbol of the preserverance of the human spirity against tynanny. Of course, standing over all these are Joseh Smith and, at the apogee of the qualities specified, Jesus Christ, who has done more for humanity than any combination of humanity could conceive, yet alone accomplish.

William Buckley, you've got to be s***'n me!

Ok, I'll take your William Buckley and raise you a Noam Chomsky (who, by the way, I think, from what I've seen, is waaay too far out there for my tastes).

[_guy sajer]

Interesting thread (and an invitation to some high comedy, in my estimation).

Well, there is now.

[_Coggins7]

William Buckley, you've got to be s****'n me!

Ok, I'll take your William Buckley and raise you a Noam Chomsky (who, by the way, I think, from what I've seen, is waaay too far out there for my tastes).

Why shouldn't Buckley be on this list, as he's one of the most brilliant and articulate supporters of the Classical Liberal tradition of individual liberty, freedom, human dignity, and unalienable rights in the twentieth century?

I'm glad Chomsky is a little too far out for your taste, as he's a traditional supporter of Communism, an anti-semite and holocaust denier, a virulent anti-American demagogue, an unbelievable pathological liar, and now a supporter of Islamism against the west and his own country. Good for you.

[_guy sajer]

William Buckley, you've got to be s****'n me!

Ok, I'll take your William Buckley and raise you a Noam Chomsky (who, by the way, I think, from what I've seen, is waaay too far out there for my tastes).

Why shouldn't Buckley be on this list, as he's one of the most brilliant and articulate supporters of the Classical Liberal tradition of individual liberty, freedom, human dignity, and unalienable rights in the twentieth century?

I actually like Buckley. You don't have to convince me that he is erudite, articulate, has some insights, is fun to read and listen to, and I agree with much of what he says.

But to put him on your list as most influential. I repeat, "you've got to be s***'n me?"

[MODERATOR NOTE: Guy, please use the "F" and "S" words in the Telestial Forum only, not here.

I'm not trying to be a jerk; that's just what the community, by-and-large, wants.

Thank you!]

[_Gazelam]

I expected Sono Hito to make a declaration of Timothy Leary, since he's responsible for most of the revelation received in his church.


I'll throw out Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He got America through the War, and did alot to keep the country together through numerous tough times, not to mention shapeing an image for the country to shoot for in giving itself a sence of identity.

[_Bond...James Bond]

I expected Sono Hito to make a declaration of Timothy Leary, since he's responsible for most of the revelation received in his church.


I'll throw out Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He got America through the War, and did alot to keep the country together through numerous tough times, not to mention shapeing an image for the country to shoot for in giving itself a sence of identity.

What church is Sono Hito a member of? Do you know?