Welcome question for Shirts: Where is the stone box?
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Polygamy Portly:
Please give me your magical reasoning why you have no interest in the stone box.
Kerry:
Because it magically doesn't matter. It's trivial, and I only have a limited amout of time in life to enjoy the good things instead of chasing irrelevancies. Reading the text itself is far and away more satisfying, intellectually invigorating and spiritually satisfyig than chasing will-o-the-wisps about its container.
PP:
Do you not agree that it should still be intact?
Kerry:
I could care less about it aymore than I care where the mummies went that Joseph acquired with the papyri. They just don't have an impact o me is all.
PP:
I'd suppose if they found the manuscripts that were smoking guns which clearly showed smith and rigdon made it all up, you would find someway to believe it was just a fluke?
Kerry:
Not anymore than the many smoking guns FARMS has found showing the Book of Mormon is authentic would convince you its genuine.
Please give me your magical reasoning why you have no interest in the stone box.
Kerry:
Because it magically doesn't matter. It's trivial, and I only have a limited amout of time in life to enjoy the good things instead of chasing irrelevancies. Reading the text itself is far and away more satisfying, intellectually invigorating and spiritually satisfyig than chasing will-o-the-wisps about its container.
PP:
Do you not agree that it should still be intact?
Kerry:
I could care less about it aymore than I care where the mummies went that Joseph acquired with the papyri. They just don't have an impact o me is all.
PP:
I'd suppose if they found the manuscripts that were smoking guns which clearly showed smith and rigdon made it all up, you would find someway to believe it was just a fluke?
Kerry:
Not anymore than the many smoking guns FARMS has found showing the Book of Mormon is authentic would convince you its genuine.
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Good start Kerry. Just give it a cookie and hope it goes away. You're going to have to pick your adversaries and topics very carefully here because the board is well populated with anti-Mormons like PP. In its onw sick, twisted way, dueling with people like this can be fun...for a while.
Then you realize that you want to exercise your mind while you defend the church and you'd like a sincere, serious critic who is interested in a civil debate about things over which he has questions and objections.
Good luck in your quest. I'm trying to alter my own behavior here becaue its easy to get sucked into the maeltrom. Especially if you have a Monty Python, Don Rickles kind of mentality towards humor that I do. Sometimes the temptations is just too great.
And yet, hope springs eternal.
Loran
Then you realize that you want to exercise your mind while you defend the church and you'd like a sincere, serious critic who is interested in a civil debate about things over which he has questions and objections.
Good luck in your quest. I'm trying to alter my own behavior here becaue its easy to get sucked into the maeltrom. Especially if you have a Monty Python, Don Rickles kind of mentality towards humor that I do. Sometimes the temptations is just too great.
And yet, hope springs eternal.
Loran
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Coggins7 wrote:Good start Kerry. Just give it a cookie and hope it goes away. You're going to have to pick your adversaries and topics very carefully here because the board is well populated with anti-Mormons like PP. In its onw sick, twisted way, dueling with people like this can be fun...for a while.
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How was the AA meeting Coggy?
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I see, because Casper the Mormon ghost told you in a self induced emotional epiphany that the Book of Mormon was twoooo?Backassward Professor wrote:Polygamy Portly:
Please give me your magical reasoning why you have no interest in the stone box.
Kerry:
Because it magically doesn't matter. It's trivial, and I only have a limited amout[sic] of time in life to enjoy the good things instead of chasing irrelevancies. Reading the text itself is far and away more satisfying, intellectually invigorating and spiritually satisfyig[sic] than chasing will-o-the-wisps about its container.
I did not ask if you cared, I asked if you would agree that such a box should still be intact. Answer the question hippie.Backassward Professor wrote:PP:
Do you not agree that it should still be intact?
Kerry:
I could care less about it aymore[sic] than I care where the mummies went that Joseph acquired with the papyri. They just don't have an impact o[sic] me is all.
Call for externally peer reviewed archaeological proof. Unless you are referring to the FARMS articles where the author bears his self induced emotional epiphany about how Casper the Mormon ghost told him the Book of Mormon was "authentic".Backassward Professor wrote:PP:
I'd suppose if they found the manuscripts that were smoking guns which clearly showed smith and rigdon made it all up, you would find someway to believe it was just a fluke?
Kerry:
Not anymore than the many smoking guns FARMS has found showing the Book of Mormon is authentic would convince you its genuine.
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I hate to break it to you guys, but the stone box containing the Book of Mormon was actually located and dug up, by the many fanatics who were who were staunch Anti-Mormons who were attempting to steal the plates at all cost, for their monetary value. The stone box was actually located no surprise seeing the area is not that large, the individual stone slabs were themselves excavated by the anti-mormons in their search for the plates and were found in a pile at the foot of the Hill Cumorah. This is factual church history, I have heard and read the account many times, it can be found in the book little known eye witness accounts of the Book of Mormon also its in the independant documentary "Roots of an American Prophet" by (The Living Scriptures Inc.) I must of missed something I am new here was this discussed earliar?
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Baurak Ale wrote:I hate to break it to you guys, but the stone box containing the Book of Mormon was actually located and dug up, by the many fanatics who were who were staunch Anti-Mormons who were attempting to steal the plates at all cost, for their monetary value. The stone box was actually located no surprise seeing the area is not that large, the individual stone slabs were themselves excavated by the anti-mormons in their search for the plates and were found in a pile at the foot of the Hill Cumorah. This is factual church history, I have heard and read the account many times, it can be found in the book little known eye witness accounts of the Book of Mormon also its in the independant documentary "Roots of an American Prophet" by (The Living Scriptures Inc.) I must of missed something I am new here was this discussed earliar?
Well, I'm glad that's settled. Now if we can just get the Plates we'll be all set. Then again there's the horses. And wheat. And steel. And DNA evidence. And cureloms. And Kolob. Till then I bid adieu. Oh wait, about adieu....
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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The locating of the stone box is fact, I had to say it if I didn't someone else would've posted it, it was a matter of time. If the Gold plates turned up, Urim and Thummim, Cureloms and DNA. I don't think that would prove a thing, then the debate would be are the articles genuine or ingenius forgeries or another third alternative, in my opinion if that happened it would only redirect the debate.
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Baurak Ale wrote:The locating of the stone box is fact, I had to say it if I didn't someone else would've posted it, it was a matter of time. If the Gold plates turned up, Urim and Thummim, Cureloms and DNA. I don't think that would prove a thing, then the debate would be are the articles genuine or ingenius forgeries or another third alternative, in my opinion if that happened it would only redirect the debate.
Where's the factual evidence of the box? An eyewitness account or something? I don't know about the documentary you referred to.
If the Plates et al. turned up it would go a long way toward legitimacy for the Book of Mormon story (which currently has none with me).
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07