Is Satan the author of the Global Warming lie?

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moksha wrote:I think this is an important concern, but I suspect my fellow members will seek to downplay or deny global warming because of their conservative values. They believe that one must be unhindered in making a buck as long as it does not involve sex. If the warming continues, they can always ascribe it to the devil.


Raping the environment may not involve sex, but I don't find it pleasant or harmless.
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asbestosman wrote:
moksha wrote:I think this is an important concern, but I suspect my fellow members will seek to downplay or deny global warming because of their conservative values. They believe that one must be unhindered in making a buck as long as it does not involve sex. If the warming continues, they can always ascribe it to the devil.


Raping the environment may not involve sex, but I don't find it pleasant or harmless.

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Re: Is Satan the author of the Global Warming lie?

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Avatar4321 wrote:Anyway last night I was thinking about it a bit more. As a faithful Latter-day Saint, I know that the Lord has promised that He would warn the people about up and coming catastophies through His living prophet. Yet, I can't help but notice that man-made global warming has never been mentioned by any Prophet or GA as a concern for us.


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I know the Lord expects us to use our brains as well. But the people who are worried most about global warming are convince of widespread devestation and destruction because of it. If it were going to cause such global and castostrphic devestation wouldn't our leaders be addressing it in some way?


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After all they are addressing other man-caused behavior which will definitely cause global devestation such as the break down of the family, lack of love, in the world etc. The Church has never been shy about moral issues that can protect mankind from destruction.


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Man, some of the replies at MAD have me shaking my head - ie., 'god won't allow the earth to be destroyed'.

That's sad man. I mean really sad. :(
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Within the last few days on the Doug Wright radio program (SLC) the man in charge of monitoring Utah's snowpack level came on and pretty much debunked the environmentalist notions on global warming. Locally, the Utah snowpack has not changed much since the 1930's (earliest accurate data including photographs) and in fact over the last few years the snowpack has been melting an average of 3 to 5 days later than normal.

Worldwide, when it was seen that glaciers were beginning to melt faster than normal about a decade ago the primary suspect was 'the ring of fire' (volcanic activity and crustal warming related to plate tectonics). Turned out to be largely the case. El Nino was also mentioned. Apparently, while there is a modest increase in temperature, the human effect, if it exists, is not measurable.

He also mentioned the geologic fact that the earth is currently in an ice age and that most of the time, the earth doesn't even have ice caps (an indirect proof of evolution by the way).

And then there is the little embarrasment in the National Geogrphic news...Mars is warming too! Could it be because of the various human built space probes that orbit and have landed there? lol

Wish you could've heard it.

Is Satan the author of the Global Warming lie?


A misnomer as the real question is the human effect. But, playing along, yes, Satan is the author of all lies. Environmentalists are simply another way for Satan to impose his plan on us by taking away our agency by forcing us to implement environmentalist solutions which usually involve a form of Socialism which is contrary to Christianity.
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I'd hate to accuse you of lazy research BC, so before I do would you mind documenting your claims? Could you also distinguish between climate and weather? Thanks.

I don't see what Mars has to do with anything.
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I'd hate to accuse you of lazy research BC, so before I do would you mind documenting your claims?


But I shall accuse you of lazy research. Read my post more carefully. Did I make any claims (other than having listened to a radio program) at all?
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bcspace wrote:Read my post more carefully. Did I make any claims (other than having listened to a radio program) at all?


No, you didn't. You passed along a talk-radio anecdote; and I just changed the station.
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Read my post more carefully. Did I make any claims (other than having listened to a radio program) at all?

No, you didn't. You passed along a talk-radio anecdote;


Correct! (though it wasn't humorous)

and I just changed the station.


The interesting thing about that is everything mentioned by the scientist on that radio program is testable. It is not suprising that rabid evironmentalists (not claiming you to be one...yet) would indeed stop their ears and not listen to science. Popular bandwagon science maybe......
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bcspace wrote:The interesting thing about that is everything mentioned by the scientist on that radio program is testable. It is not suprising that rabid evironmentalists (not claiming you to be one...yet) would indeed stop their ears and not listen to science. Popular bandwagon science maybe......


To be honest, I'm mildly skeptical myself. Whatever is to blame, the consequences of global warming may be something we'll have to live with, like another generation of American soldiers in Iraq. I haven't seen Al Gore's movie although I probably should.

Theres a certain amount of evidence that is incontravertible. Furthermore, some of the rationalizations being offered on MAD are breathtaking. I won't say you're one of them, BC, if you don't call me a bandwagon scientist.
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