Was Nibley a Genius, Scholar, or Crackpot?

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VegasRefugee wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Having read only a few articles written by Hugh Nibley, I'd have to take "genius at misdirection" for 200$, Alex. My opinion so far...

Jersey Girl


Nibley was the apologist prophet. I bet if he was just a little bit more tossed up by the task to prove the Mormon god existed he would have blown his brains out.

He delivered an exercise in comparative mythology.

He's like a tolkein literary scholar drawing threads to germany/mordor except theres more value in the Tolkien fantasy world...like an enjoyable story and realistic characters.

Joes characters seem like a post pubescent country boys masturbation fantasy, his stories worse than some of the plots I created after smoking up the Ganj.


One man who spoke several languages fluently and published extensively is being heavily criticized by a man who doesn't even speak English properly (his only language, as far as I can tell) loves to make jokes about pederasty and masturbation, and who smokes pot. I wish I had as firm a grasp on reality as those of this board who think this man and his arguments are respectable in the least, because it makes absolutely no sense to me and everyone here seems to think it's fine.
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Video biography

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Click here:http://maxwellinstitute.BYU.edu/multimedia/index.php?cat=NIBLEY to view a biography entitled "Faith of an Observer"

Its really excellent and I own a copy myself. The great part is when he starts expounding on the Egyptian Temple rights and how they stole them from the writings of Noah. Great stuff.

I love to read Hugh Nibleys works. Kerry Shirts has a website that discusses them at length. http://backyardprofessor.typepad.com/the_backyard_professor/
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maklelan wrote:
VegasRefugee wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Having read only a few articles written by Hugh Nibley, I'd have to take "genius at misdirection" for 200$, Alex. My opinion so far...

Jersey Girl


Nibley was the apologist prophet. I bet if he was just a little bit more tossed up by the task to prove the Mormon god existed he would have blown his brains out.

He delivered an exercise in comparative mythology.

He's like a tolkein literary scholar drawing threads to germany/mordor except theres more value in the Tolkien fantasy world...like an enjoyable story and realistic characters.

Joes characters seem like a post pubescent country boys masturbation fantasy, his stories worse than some of the plots I created after smoking up the Ganj-and Mac is a fag


One man who spoke several languages fluently and published extensively is being heavily criticized by a man who doesn't even speak English properly (his only language, as far as I can tell) loves to make jokes about pederasty and masturbation, and who smokes pot. I wish I had as firm a grasp on reality as those of this board who think this man and his arguments are respectable in the least, because it makes absolutely no sense to me and everyone here seems to think it's fine.


To say I do not have a grasp on reality is immature and based on your interpretation of my interpretations, you cult peddling numb nutz.

Ignorant generalizations concerning Monolinguists, pot smokers and those with potty mouths. Gawd man, Do you think you can come up with an argument based on my argument instead of this jerk-off BS we have to put up with every time you open your mouth?

I for once would like you to concisely break apart any of my arguments instead of the hohum form letter character assassination that is your stock and trade?
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Re: Video biography

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Gazelam wrote:Click here:http://maxwellinstitute.BYU.edu/multimedia/index.php?cat=NIBLEY to view a biography entitled "Faith of an Observer"

Its really excellent and I own a copy myself. The great part is when he starts expounding on the Egyptian Temple rights and how they stole them from the writings of Noah. Great stuff.

I love to read Hugh Nibleys works. Kerry Shirts has a website that discusses them at length. http://backyardprofessor.typepad.com/the_backyard_professor/


Wow, considering that Noah never existed THAT makes a whole HELL of a lot of sense.

(end of sarcasm)

Gazzy, Noah never existed. How can someone steal a nonexistent persons ceremonies?

Nibley was a crackpot. You just proved it.
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Noah never existed? Now whos showing their ignorance?

Even those who don't believe in his Prophetship and don't believe in a global flood accept that there was a Noah. I just watched a discovery channel special where they stated that the real Noah was some phonecian barge merchant who outlasted a flood by eating and drinking his cargo. This based on ancient writings they have found that mention a Noah who outlasted a flood.

Try again my verbose, obscenity spewing friend who has run from the flood of illegals here in Vegas. Whats wrong, you get tired of all the billboards you couldent read here in town?
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Gazelam wrote:Noah never existed? Now whos showing their ignorance?

Even those who don't believe in his Prophetship and don't believe in a global flood accept that there was a Noah. I just watched a discovery channel special where they stated that the real Noah was some phonecian barge merchant who outlasted a flood by eating and drinking his cargo. This based on ancient writings they have found that mention a Noah who outlasted a flood.

Try again my verbose, obscenity spewing friend who has run from the flood of illegals here in Vegas. Whats wrong, you get tired of all the billboards you couldent read here in town?


When did he live (and not the b***s*** discovery channel, im talking peer reviewed concensus),? Where are the writings of noah the egyptians ganked? What elements in the Noah ceremony were gleaned from the egyptian ceremonies?

You have nothing but poorly understood mythologies you can defend Nibley, the know-nothing crackpot.
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maklelan wrote:
I am, in reality, a homosexual.



I KNEW it!!!
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VegasRefugee wrote:
maklelan wrote:
I am, in reality, a homosexual.



I KNEW it!!!


Vegas, quit fiddling around with mak's words. It's not nice, and the homosexuals I know would never claim him as one of their own.
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Noah was born around 2944 B.C., putting the Flood at roughly 2344 B.C. This according to W. Cleon Skousen's fold out chart in the back of his book "The First 2,000 years". I'm not a big Skousen fan, but that was the first source I could think of to answer your question.

In regards to stealing the writings of Noah, this comes from the Pearl of great Price. Abr. 1:21-28

21 Now this king of Egypt was a descendant from the loins of Ham, and was a partaker of the blood of the Canaanites by birth.
22 From this descent sprang all the Egyptians, and thus the blood of the Canaanites was preserved in the land.
23 The land of Egypt being first discovered by a woman, who was the daughter of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden;
24 When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and thus, from Ham, sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land.
25 Now the first government of Egypt was established by Pharaoh, the eldest son of Egyptus, the daughter of Ham, and it was after the manner of the government of Ham, which was patriarchal.
26 Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days, seeking earnestly to imitate that order established by the fathers in the first generations, in the days of the first patriarchal reign, even in the reign of Adam, and also of Noah, his father, who blessed him with the blessings of the earth, and with the blessings of wisdom, but cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood.
27 Now, Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood, notwithstanding the Pharaohs would fain claim it from Noah, through Ham, therefore my father was led away by their idolatry;
28 But I shall endeavor, hereafter, to delineate the chronology running back from myself to the beginning of the creation, for the records have come into my hands, which I hold unto this present time.

So there you have it. Being denied the priesthood because he was carrying the curse of Cain, he took the writings of Noah and made his own religion. That is why the Egyption temple ceremonies so closely resemble the true temple teachings. Watch the video I linked, he explains it.
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VegasRefugee wrote:To say I do not have a grasp on reality is immature and based on your interpretation of my interpretations, you cult peddling numb nutz.


You misunderstand. I was being facetious by saying that I must not have a grip on reality because everyone else seems to think your opinions are rational, but they seem utterly ludicrous to me.

VegasRefugee wrote:Ignorant generalizations concerning Monolinguists, pot smokers and those with potty mouths. Gawd man, Do you think you can come up with an argument based on my argument instead of this jerk-off BS we have to put up with every time you open your mouth?


I forget that your posts are so much more mature and intellectual than mine.

VegasRefugee wrote:I for once would like you to concisely break apart any of my arguments instead of the hohum form letter character assassination that is your stock and trade?


Every time I show that your arguments are ludicrous you just stop posting. Then I have to insult you to get you to respond, but then you never engage the evidence. I was making a general observation and rather hoped that others would respond concerning the board's general approval of your idiotic posts. How do I get under your skin so much that you have to resort to quoting something i never said just to make yourself feel better? Is your life that pathetic?
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