I hope that while you were taking courses you found time enough after the study of your subject to study the professors. One may well learn more from studying the professor than studying the subject.
Wow. This statement really creeped me out. Packer blatantly supports the ad hominem fallacy.
How so? I took a course on Middle Eastern governments in which the professor claimed that the governments of Egypt and Iran are true democracies in the western sense. When I presented evidence to the contrary in my paper (they are not democracies in ANY sense), I got a "C" for the course without any explaination as to why the evidence I presented might be invalid (which was her claim). Come to find out during this process that she is a muslim/palestinian/feminist/lesbian. Figures!
How so? I took a course on Middle Eastern governments in which the professor claimed that the governments of Egypt and Iran are true democracies in the western sense. When I presented evidence to the contrary in my paper (they are not democracies in ANY sense), I got a "C" for the course without any explaination as to why the evidence I presented might be invalid (which was her claim). Come to find out during this process that she is a muslim/palestinian/feminist/lesbian. Figures!
This is, while quite common in the modern politicized humanities and social science professorate, both unethical and abusive. FIRE deals with cases of this kind all the time. I'm not saying you should raise a stink about it, but what this profession did, even though SOP in many departments dealing with this kind of subject matter, is fraudulent in an academic sense. This is really what political correctness means; not so much the abstract theories that are held as the punitive control many professors exercise in an attempt to enforce ideological conformity.
I graduated in 1970. The age of enlightenment had begun in the rest of the country, but not BYU. I have to assume they'd have to loosen up somewhat in the meantime. Like I mentioned in another thread, my freshman health text had a one page chapter on sex which had been blacked out.
Yes, uh, the Seventies. The "age of enlightenment". The maturing of the modern cult of eroticism, manifested here as a perennial obsession with the alleged dearth of overt references to sex and sexuality everywhere. What actually happened at BYU, was that the people at BYU remained, for the most part, sexually mature, in a psychological sesne, while much of the rest of the country descended into the infantilization (or, perhaps more precisely, the adoscentization) both of human sexuality and the resulting trivialization of its meaning and implications.
This talk has been edited. The following paragraph by Packer was taken out around 1978-79.
"Othello also got the reward he deserved. Being a "darkie", and notwithstanding their black covering emblematical of eternal darkness, it was not the natural order for him to be with the white and delightsome Desmonda. Had Othello stayed "amongst his kind" as Elder Mark Petersen and President Young correctly taught, those around him would not have been struck dead. As President George Albert Smith taught "We are not unmindful of the fact that there is a growing tendency, particularly among some educators, as it manifests itself in this area, toward the breaking down of race barriers in the matter of intermarriage between whites and blacks, but it does not have the sanction of the church and is contrary to church doctrine."
This talk has been edited. The following paragraph by Packer was taken out around 1978-79.
"Othello also got the reward he deserved. Being a "darkie", and notwithstanding their black covering emblematical of eternal darkness, it was not the natural order for him to be with the white and delightsome Desmonda. Had Othello stayed "amongst his kind" as Elder Mark Petersen and President Young correctly taught, those around him would not have been struck dead. As President George Albert Smith taught "We are not unmindful of the fact that there is a growing tendency, particularly among some educators, as it manifests itself in this area, toward the breaking down of race barriers in the matter of intermarriage between whites and blacks, but it does not have the sanction of the church and is contrary to church doctrine."
What is the source for the talk from which this alleged quotation was taken?
This talk has been edited. The following paragraph by Packer was taken out around 1978-79.
"Othello also got the reward he deserved. Being a "darkie", and notwithstanding their black covering emblematical of eternal darkness, it was not the natural order for him to be with the white and delightsome Desmonda. Had Othello stayed "amongst his kind" as Elder Mark Petersen and President Young correctly taught, those around him would not have been struck dead. As President George Albert Smith taught "We are not unmindful of the fact that there is a growing tendency, particularly among some educators, as it manifests itself in this area, toward the breaking down of race barriers in the matter of intermarriage between whites and blacks, but it does not have the sanction of the church and is contrary to church doctrine."
What is the source for the talk from which this alleged quotation was taken?
I believe the title of the talk is "People who can't spot parody."
How so? I took a course on Middle Eastern governments in which the professor claimed that the governments of Egypt and Iran are true democracies in the western sense. When I presented evidence to the contrary in my paper (they are not democracies in ANY sense), I got a "C" for the course without any explaination as to why the evidence I presented might be invalid (which was her claim). Come to find out during this process that she is a muslim/palestinian/feminist/lesbian. Figures!
This is, while quite common in the modern politicized humanities and social science professorate, both unethical and abusive. FIRE deals with cases of this kind all the time. I'm not saying you should raise a stink about it, but what this profession did, even though SOP in many departments dealing with this kind of subject matter, is fraudulent in an academic sense. This is really what political correctness means; not so much the abstract theories that are held as the punitive control many professors exercise in an attempt to enforce ideological conformity.
Yes, and where this happens, it should be brought to administrators' attention.
The difficult sometimes comes when disgruntled students latch onto this, or something like it, as pretext to explain away a bad grade. I met more than one student who blamed me for his/her poor performance this way.
I know it happens, and probably with some frequency, but given my experience, I maintain a certain degree of skepticism about student accusations of this nature, as I know that students, with some frequency, make baseless claims against professors.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
I graduated in 1970. The age of enlightenment had begun in the rest of the country, but not BYU. I have to assume they'd have to loosen up somewhat in the meantime. Like I mentioned in another thread, my freshman health text had a one page chapter on sex which had been blacked out.
Yes, uh, the Seventies. The "age of enlightenment". The maturing of the modern cult of eroticism, manifested here as a perennial obsession with the alleged dearth of overt references to sex and sexuality everywhere. What actually happened at BYU, was that the people at BYU remained, for the most part, sexually mature, in a psychological sesne, while much of the rest of the country descended into the infantilization (or, perhaps more precisely, the adoscentization) both of human sexuality and the resulting trivialization of its meaning and implications.
"People at BYU" and "sexually mature" are not two phrases I would put together.
In my experience, it is quite the opposite.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
And what does this have to do with my depreciation of the Seventies as the "age of enlightenment"? As to issues regarding Black people in America, the Seventies saw the marginalization and ultimate death of the old civil rights integrationist movement, lead by Martin Luther King, and the rise and dominance of the Black Power movement wrapped in the folds of the civil rights movement. The Seventies were the era of Jesse Jackson and the rise and consolidation of the racial grievance industry, including Affirmative Action and the rise of the "professional black", not "civil rights".
This reached its apogee in the Eighties with Multiculturalism, which has been aptly called our own indigenous intellectual National Socialism. Afrocentrism, with regard to Blacks, is the probably inevitable outcome of such ideologies being taken seriously.
Coggins7 wrote:And what does this have to do with my depreciation of the Seventies as the "age of enlightenment"? As to issues regarding Black people in America, the Seventies saw the marginalization and ultimate death of the old civil rights integrationist movement, lead by Martin Luther King, and the rise and dominance of the Black Power movement wrapped in the folds of the civil rights movement. The Seventies were the era of Jesse Jackson and the rise and consolidation of the racial grievance industry, including Affirmative Action and the rise of the "professional black", not "civil rights".
This reached its apogee in the Eighties with Multiculturalism, which has been aptly called our own indigenous intellectual National Socialism. Afrocentrism, with regard to Blacks, is the probably inevitable outcome of such ideologies being taken seriously.
Enlightenment indeed.
I really enjoy your posts, Coggins7. Keep them coming. :-)