DCP: RFM on the path to Nazism

[_Runtu]

More importantly, the fact that this post caused people to cry "troll", says something itself about how this is not the general tone of the forum.

I think I'll go did up a few priceless quotes from MADD and write up articles about it. Maybe the one where diggerdan says the victims at Mountain Meadows were better off being slaughtered. That was really a choice comment, but worse of all, it was defended by several FAIRites, including a mod.

This was unquestionalbly, not a troll related post.

This post from RfM is priceless:

I'm not accusing this anon of being a troll, but it is a trollish technique to post something outrageous in the hopes of getting outrageous responses. Then the troll runs off to a different board and uses the responses to say: "Look how crazy ex-mormons are! They want to kill people over their religion."

I'm not suggesting anybody change the way the post. But we shouldn't kid ourselves about trolls and how they operate.

Gee, who would go over to another board and say how crazy the ex-mormons are?

[_guy sajer]

Well, to see how valid DCP's analogy is, let's do a thought experiement.

Assume that Utah were to cede from the US and create its own republic. The government and its functionaries were controlled by active, believing Mormons.

Assume also that the "typical" posters on RfM were to suddenly find themselves in control of civic government able to structure the laws of society to their liking.

How do you rate the likelihood over time of:

1. The Mormon controlled government granting full range of civil liberties to "angry" apostates or critics of Mormonism.
2. The government controlled by typical RfM posters granting the full range of civil liberties to Mormons, including DCP.

[_Some Schmo]

DCP is the biggest troll infesting the Mormon forum scene. It's quite clear that he only posts to get a rise out of people, and thrives on the fact that everyone talks about him in such negative terms. He's taken trollish posting behavior to a new level.

I've got to give him credit for it. Still, his online persona is that of a dumba$$ (which is part of the whole troll thing - it works). The funniest thing about it is the number of people who actually consider him an intellectual. Cracks me up.

[_why me]

RFM is its own worst enemy considering what they allow to be posted. Also, banning 'TBM' doesn't help also. It sort of tars their image and then when the hate posts go unchallenged by moderators, well, tarnishing is bound to happen. But it is their own fault. Most exsites want to protect their flock, allowing no postives to be posted and if a positive is posted, hound that poster out of the forum.

RFM is not a recovery forum since their is very little to recover from. When one looses their testimony there should be an automatic feeling of freedom...no need for a recovery forum in that regard. If I were to loose my testimony, I would feel free as an eagle.

[_guy sajer]

RFM is not a recovery forum since their is very little to recover from. When one looses their testimony there should be an automatic feeling of freedom...no need for a recovery forum in that regard. If I were to loose my testimony, I would feel free as an eagle.

Do you have any sense how breathtakingly ignorant this statement is?

Just because you would "feel free as an eagle" does not mean that others would feel the same. YOU are not the standard for how others should act, feel, think, etc.

Spend just a smidgeon of your time to listen, I mean actually, listen to ex-mos and you hear descriptions of betrayal, hurt, anger, frustration, shunning, depression, anxiety, etc.

Go spend some time on other "recovery" sites for J-Dubs, Evangelicals, Muslims, Scientologists, etc., and you'll hear the same things.

Losing one's faith, finding one has been deceived by someone you trusted, realizing one has wasted years of your life, discovering that years of sacrifice, faith, dilligence were for naught, being rejected by one's family, friends, and social circles, these are all traumatic experiences that produce a range of emotions beyond "feeling free as an eagle."

It's hard to believe that anyone who spends any amount of time talking or listening to ex-mos or people in the DAMU could come away so ignorant.

[_Some Schmo]

RFM is not a recovery forum since their is very little to recover from. When one looses their testimony there should be an automatic feeling of freedom...no need for a recovery forum in that regard. If I were to loose my testimony, I would feel free as an eagle.

Two comments about this (well, and an LOL):

- Only a Mormon still suffering the cloud and denial involved with Mormonism wouldn't understand what there is to recover from, so no surprise you feel this way
- Paradoxically embedded in this comment is the underlying message that you feel repressed by the church, and that's one of the exact things people need to recover from (not to mention the accompanying anger they feel when they realize they've been repressed all this time for nothing)

So yeah... LOL

[_Runtu]

Two comments about this (well, and an LOL):

- Only a Mormon still suffering the cloud and denial involved with Mormonism wouldn't understand what there is to recover from, so no surprise you feel this way
- Paradoxically embedded in this comment is the underlying message that you feel repressed by the church, and that's one of the exact things people need to recover from (not to mention the accompanying anger they feel when they realize they've been repressed all this time for nothing)

So yeah... LOL

Yep, how it worked for me was first being devastated that all I had done was for nothing, as you said. But, I thought, at least the church made me happy. Then when I really started thinking about it, I realized that it really hadn't made me happy at all. I like why me, but that statement was unbelievable. Well, of course, Wade told me the same thing: I didn't lose anything. The church lost me, so it should be the church that is going through grieving, not me.

[_Pokatator]

RFM is not a recovery forum since their is very little to recover from. When one looses their testimony there should be an automatic feeling of freedom...no need for a recovery forum in that regard. If I were to loose my testimony, I would feel free as an eagle.

Isn't freedom good? Mormons call it free agency and claim it to be good. Why doesn't your testimony make you feel free as an eagle? You seem to be admitting that you are in bondage and being oppressed. I believe that you are in bondage and being oppressed, I used to be there too. I am free now, and believe me there is a lot to recover from.

I think that you play the victim, thus the identity you use is "Why Me". Are you helpless? I believe you are a victim of the church. There is so much that can be read into your 3 little sentences above. Change your identity to something other than a victim status, it could be a start of something good for you.

I also call on you again to change your avatar. I will use your same argument and words you used to call for the change of the Boyd K. Packer avatar. Do you want me to quote you here?

[_Bond...James Bond]

Most exsites want to protect their flock, allowing no postives to be posted and if a positive is posted, hound that poster out of the forum.

And MAD doesn't protect it's flock?

RFM is not a recovery forum since their is very little to recover from.

That's your perception. I'm betting people who have lost family and spouses over Apostacy would beg to differ.

[_marg]

I went there once by accident and saw the bile, and that was all I needed to see.

I see much more anger expressed by Mormon posters on Madd than I do by exmormons on the RFM board.

Your use of the word "bile" to describe RFM is an emotion laden word which indicates anger from yourself because it's so extreme and yet it's not an accurate reflection of the overall tone and intent of the RFM board.

I don't know about how others perceive things, but it's obvious to me that people such a Bill Hamblin, Juliann, DCP are angry people.