Question about the DVD that's circulating

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That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy.
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Thank you, ab!!!

The second link is wrong for some reason. I noticed a familiar person in part 7. Brian J. Mackert who posts on many boards. Wow.

Thank you again,

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Mormon lying..

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asbestosman wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Gazelam wrote:Do you have a link to watch it on youtube?

It's not youtube, but here's a link for watching it online:

http://www.goodnewsforlds.org/video.html

Here's the rebuttal:
http://en.fairmormon.org/index.php/Sear ... _Truth_DVD


I just read the Fair rebuff. Both groups have little difference in their approach.

Definition of a lie and a very well written article:

http://home.teleport.com/~packham/lying.htm
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I plan to watch it from the website. (never had one delievered to our home) I don't live in Utah, but some of my Utah family received the DVD and live in highly populated Mormon towns. None of them watched it and probably disposed of it. I wonder what percentage of LDS will even view the movie or keep it around the house? My TBM family knew it was "anti Mormon" right away and wouldn't go near it.
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There are those who operate on a "lean on a faithful member" testimony. This is a spiritual gift, but it is not a spiritual gift that is intended to remain. All people are intended to receive a special witness of the Holy Ghost and have a solid testimony of the truthfulness of the Church and Christ.

Anti Mormon teachings are poinson to someone who does not have a solid foundation given through a witness of the spirit. So of coarce faithful members dispose of anti Mormon propaganda so as not to expose those who are "tender shoots" to it and destroy their "young roots."
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I found the DVD to be of poor reference quality. My opinion is that is was produced by a very lazy group of people with an ulterior motive. Everyone who nows of the Tanners, knows that they embellish (they don't even have to if they actually studied the historical books they quote). For this reason, the DVD will probably do more good for the Mormon church than bad.

It almost seems like the Mormon church produced it to remind the members the weekness of the anti's arguments.
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Inconceivable wrote:I found the DVD to be of poor reference quality. My opinion is that is was produced by a very lazy group of people with an ulterior motive. Everyone who nows of the Tanners, knows that they embellish (they don't even have to if they actually studied the historical books they quote). For this reason, the DVD will probably do more good for the Mormon church than bad.

It almost seems like the Mormon church produced it to remind the members the weekness of the anti's arguments.


I've watched most of the DVD, still have a fiew parts left to view. I'd like to know if you can supply examples of the poor reference quality and weakness of argument. I'd also like to know if you detected any specific falsehoods in the DVD and if you'd list those here.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:I found the DVD to be of poor reference quality. My opinion is that is was produced by a very lazy group of people with an ulterior motive. Everyone who nows of the Tanners, knows that they embellish (they don't even have to if they actually studied the historical books they quote). For this reason, the DVD will probably do more good for the Mormon church than bad.

It almost seems like the Mormon church produced it to remind the members the weekness of the anti's arguments.


I've watched most of the DVD, still have a fiew parts left to view. I'd like to know if you can supply examples of the poor reference quality and weakness of argument. I'd also like to know if you detected any specific falsehoods in the DVD and if you'd list those here.

Thanks,
Jersey Girl


Have not watched nor do I plan to. FAIR has a fairly lengthy review of it though.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:I found the DVD to be of poor reference quality. My opinion is that is was produced by a very lazy group of people with an ulterior motive. Everyone who nows of the Tanners, knows that they embellish (they don't even have to if they actually studied the historical books they quote). For this reason, the DVD will probably do more good for the Mormon church than bad.

It almost seems like the Mormon church produced it to remind the members the weekness of the anti's arguments.


I've watched most of the DVD, still have a fiew parts left to view. I'd like to know if you can supply examples of the poor reference quality and weakness of argument. I'd also like to know if you detected any specific falsehoods in the DVD and if you'd list those here.

Thanks,
Jersey Girl


Have not watched nor do I plan to. FAIR has a fairly lengthy review of it though.


Why not examine it for yourself?
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Post by _Mister Scratch »

The "lengthy" FAIR article is nothing to brag about. It was obviously cobbled together in a real hurry ("Scotty Dog" Gordon and his pals needed to respond ASAP to their bootlegged copy of the DVD before the release date, after all), and basically seems to be a hack job. Perhaps they will clean it up in the future. Perhaps not. The bottomline is that the article is a smary, slipshod bit of apologetics that tries to sweep a lot of problems under the rug via the "this is old-fashioned, hackneyed anti-Mormonism" excuse. Not very impressive at all.
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