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_Mercury
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Ray A wrote:What is a "meme"? Do you know? If so, can you explain it to me?

I do! I do!

It's a mythical creature invented by the British fictionalist Richard Dawkins.


Its funny how you say that as if your opinion is anywhere near relevant.

Dawkins would kick the hell out of your silly beliefs.
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Mercury wrote:Dawkins would kick the hell out of your silly beliefs.

For reasons that you'll learn about in a few months, I hope, that comment amuses me.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Mercury wrote:Dawkins would kick the hell out of your silly beliefs.

For reasons that you'll learn about in a few months, I hope, that comment amuses me.


Give us a hint Dannypoohbear.....is it in print or is it physical? You've challenged Dawkins to a thumb wrestling match right?

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Bond...James Bond wrote:You've challenged Dawkins to a thumb wrestling match right?

Yes. A panda thumb wrestling match, no less. In front of the Oxford Union at high noon.
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A meme is a replicator, at the atomic level of social and culture thought patterns.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Mercury wrote:Dawkins would kick the hell out of your silly beliefs.

For reasons that you'll learn about in a few months, I hope, that comment amuses me.


Does this mean we're finally going to have a FARMS review of Books on Dawkins' Delusion? I was kinda looking forward to that ever since I read the other response which seemed to refute some basic points of LDS doctrine as a side effect.
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Sethbag wrote:A meme is a replicator, at the atomic level of social and culture thought patterns.

I don't think that part of it controversial. Culture spreads, no doubt. Where I think the controversy lies is in considering humans to be merely "meme machines" such that all our conscious thoughts are not really our own but rather products of our environment and possibly random noise / mutations of other ideas. Such a view seems overly reductionistic besides dipping into the controversial topic of whether or not people have free will and in what manner they do.

I think as far as the concept that ideas spread and change goes, that can be a useful way of viewing or tyring to understand human thoughts. It just seems that there is much more to us when it comes to our consciousness and of course our free-will.
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asbestosman wrote:
Does this mean we're finally going to have a FARMS review of Books on Dawkins' Delusion? I was kinda looking forward to that ever since I read the other response which seemed to refute some basic points of LDS doctrine as a side effect.


I don't know if a FARMS Review will be necessary (though it will still be nice), since many of Dawkins' fellow scientists have already criticised him for his anti-religion campaign. Some of them think he's truly deluded in this approach. Pity some of them don't post here. RenegadeOfPhunk had some interesting things to say about this on MAD, and I think we agree on this.
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