Mister Scratch wrote:Please see my other thread. It seems to me that none of them will bother to see the film, since TBM fervor against it will have successfully persuaded most of the rank-and-file that it is "anti-Mormon." "The thinking has been done," in other words.
Even given the considerably greater daily traffic at MA&D as compared to here, it is very unlikely that the millions of so-called "rank-and-file" will be privy to the so-called "TBM fervor" there. It is far more likely that they will hear nothing at all about this relatively obscure movie. I am sorry that your thinking was done prior to considering this far greater plausability. ;-)
Mister Scratch wrote:Please see my other thread. It seems to me that none of them will bother to see the film, since TBM fervor against it will have successfully persuaded most of the rank-and-file that it is "anti-Mormon." "The thinking has been done," in other words.
Even given the considerably greater daily traffic at MA&D as compared to here, it is very unlikely that the millions of so-called "rank-and-file" will be privy to the so-called "TBM fervor" there. It is far more likely that they will hear nothing at all about this relatively obscure movie. I am sorry that your thinking was done prior to considering this far greater plausability. ;-)
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Gee, you know what, Wade? My feelings were really hurt when you shunned me all those times. I'm so glad that you've decided to start responding again! As I said about Coggins, "Some people can leave Mr. Scratch, but they cannot leave him alone." I guess you are an apostate from the Church of Latter-day Scratch, eh Wade?
Anyhow, back to your post. I think the rank-and-file will be "at one", as it were, with what I referred to as the "TBM fervor"---especially since I view that "fervor" as being, quite simply, garden-variety LDS prejudice. And plus, we all know how big of a role gossip plays in LDS communities.
Mister Scratch wrote:Please see my other thread. It seems to me that none of them will bother to see the film, since TBM fervor against it will have successfully persuaded most of the rank-and-file that it is "anti-Mormon." "The thinking has been done," in other words.
Even given the considerably greater daily traffic at MA&D as compared to here, it is very unlikely that the millions of so-called "rank-and-file" will be privy to the so-called "TBM fervor" there. It is far more likely that they will hear nothing at all about this relatively obscure movie. I am sorry that your thinking was done prior to considering this far greater plausability. ;-)
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Gee, you know what, Wade? My feelings were really hurt when you shunned me all those times. I'm so glad that you've decided to start responding again! As I said about Coggins, "Some people can leave Mr. Scratch, but they cannot leave him alone." I guess you are an apostate from the Church of Latter-day Scratch, eh Wade?
As expected, you yet again misconstrued my meaning and intents (at least you are consistent), and this in spite of my having corrected you on multiple occasion. Let me try one last time.
The intent wasn't to shun you, but rather to restrict my interactions here to instances where there was at least some potential for value and benefit (mutual or otherwise). From past experience I realized that such was not probable with you, if not impossible. I was also concerned that by responding to your inanity, I was inadvertantly endowing your thoughts and actions with undue significance, and perhaps inadvertantly reinforce your delusionally-inflatted sense of self. For that I apologize.
Anyway, as it turns out, my laps in commitment and my subsequent valueless interactions with you today, have reaffirm my prior assessment, and has just given me renued resolve.
The Genie is out of the Bottle with the internet. The children of these Chapel Mormons, will have the history of the Church readily available for them. It is just a matter of what they do with this information. If and when President Packer becomes the Prophet, I hope he does not issue an internet ban for LDS members due to the availability of non-faith-promoting materials.
September Dawn appears to be over the top. I think many TBM's will refuse to see it because it is a hit peace (and it will most likely have an R rating).
I'm sure it will be rejected in Utah County much like Brokeback Mountain.
The difference is that non-members will view the movie for the next 10 years - from the theater to Blockbuster to Walmart. There is enough truth to the story that NM's will be asking members questions they can't comfortably answer. They will have to research it in order to not appear uninformed and mindless.
There are no simple explanations either. It's really complicated. Even the church's damage control statement leaves a lot of questions unanswered. I can see the church's wisdom in posting it's statement months before the anniversary/movie. But it just isn't enough.
With Spanish subtitles it will flow into countries where the membership hasn't even a clue about the black issue or polygamy.
Inconceivable wrote:September Dawn appears to be over the top. I think many TBM's will refuse to see it because it is a hit peace (and it will most likely have an R rating).
I'm sure it will be rejected in Utah County much like Brokeback Mountain.
The difference is that non-members will view the movie for the next 10 years - from the theater to Blockbuster to Walmart. There is enough truth to the story that NM's will be asking members questions they can't comfortably answer. They will have to research it in order to not appear uninformed and mindless.
There are no simple explanations either. It's really complicated. Even the church's damage control statement leaves a lot of questions unanswered. I can see the church's wisdom in posting it's statement months before the anniversary/movie. But it just isn't enough.
With Spanish subtitles it will flow into countries where the membership hasn't even a clue about the black issue or polygamy.
That is where I see the greatest impact. Just another large barnacle on the bottom of the USS Mormon.
The other day my boss asked me about Mormons and was surprise to find out they embrace technology. I was ROFL when he said, "I thought the reason they rode bicycles is because modern technology was not allowed"
Like I have said many times before, the best convert comes from a TBM womb. So while the conversion rate will continue to dwindle, the organic growth will continue albeit at a slower rate as well.
Mister Scratch wrote:And plus, we all know how big of a role gossip plays in LDS communities.
How much of a role does it play contrasted with other communities? Any idea?
Will such questions drive critics of Mormonism like Scratch Senior to do any research?
Dr. Peterson has a point here.
Most tight-knit communities have problems with gossip. The reason the LDS Church is prominently "called out" for this is because it is an extremely large tight-knit community.
Inconceivable wrote:September Dawn appears to be over the top. I think many TBM's will refuse to see it because it is a hit peace (and it will most likely have an R rating).
I'm sure it will be rejected in Utah County much like Brokeback Mountain.
The difference is that non-members will view the movie for the next 10 years - from the theater to Blockbuster to Walmart. There is enough truth to the story that NM's will be asking members questions they can't comfortably answer. They will have to research it in order to not appear uninformed and mindless.
There are no simple explanations either. It's really complicated. Even the church's damage control statement leaves a lot of questions unanswered. I can see the church's wisdom in posting it's statement months before the anniversary/movie. But it just isn't enough.
With Spanish subtitles it will flow into countries where the membership hasn't even a clue about the black issue or polygamy.
I guess my question is, how much impact will the movie really have? It's hardly in any type of "blockbuster status". Frankly, the only advertising I've really seen for it is on these boards!
Since it's more of an independent film, and not in the same league with "Spiderman 3", "Harry Potter 5", "Pirates of the Caribbean", etc., I don't know how much of a "splash" it's going to make except with those academics who really want to know about it.