Dr. Shades wrote:Maxrep, I don't have reason to doubt you, but man, your opening post stretches credulity to the limit.
I really can't imagine that the powers-that-be would have the guts to pull something like this. Forgive me, but I really, really have a hard time buying it. Could your relative perhaps be confusing this with something else? Rather than a trial program orchestrated from the top, could it perhaps be some wacky idea by a rogue Stake President?
I don't think this is strange at all. I mean I never thought I'd see the day when the church would get so cheap, they'd let go all the janitors, and make the members clean the church, and yet here we are, cleaning the churches and no one thinks twice about it. And it sounds like Liz's ward has Temple Patrons, so there ya go. Combine the two programs, send out a letter informing the families of their "calling", and Max's OP's takes on credibility.
It'll be interesting to see how the general membership reacts to such "callings."
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Dr. Shades wrote:Hold on a second. . . you mentioned people being called a temple patrons, but you said nothing about them being young couples. I rather assumed that they were calling older, retired couples whose kids were all out of the house.
Pretty wild. . . I guess they want to project an air of diversity in their sessions.
Oh ya, that was the kicker! The temple patron couples did not come with walkers and cains. We're talking late 20's to 30's. They could have been having sex or some other worthwhile activity!
Everyone would rather see young folk in the sessions.
liz3564 wrote:All of the Relief Society was busting their humps to schedule times to sit with her (she couldn't be alone) and to bring in meals.
Why couldn't she be alone?
She just had major hip surgery and needed someone there to help steady her to go the bathroom, etc. If she fell, she would have to have surgery all over again, and she also wouldn't be able to get up.
Would you leave your wife alone in that kind of condition? Or just pawn it off on the Church to figure out? I think not!
Update: the program is actually only specific to one stake/ward operating on their own accord. It is not a church mandated pilot program. There was a communication error with the individual who told me about the program. My apologies.
Dr. Shades, since this is just a localized policy, rather than an official pilot program, it might be best to just strike the thread altogether. What do you think?
Maxrep wrote:On the other hand, this is coming from the religion that brought us plural marriage and the united order, . . .
Yeah, you're right. Stranger things have happened.
and as I recently pointed out, young couples who are called as temple patrons for the soul purpose of creating the appearance of healthy temple attendance. It sounds strange - but maybe just strange enough! Ha ha.
Hold on a second. . . you mentioned people being called a temple patrons, but you said nothing about them being young couples. I rather assumed that they were calling older, retired couples whose kids were all out of the house.
Pretty wild. . . I guess they want to project an air of diversity in their sessions.
Both couples who have been called as Temple Patrons in my ward are of retirement age. They are not retired, actually, but their kids are out of the house.
liz3564 wrote:All of the Relief Society was busting their humps to schedule times to sit with her (she couldn't be alone) and to bring in meals.
Why couldn't she be alone?
She just had major hip surgery and needed someone there to help steady her to go the bathroom, etc. If she fell, she would have to have surgery all over again, and she also wouldn't be able to get up.
Would you leave your wife alone in that kind of condition? Or just pawn it off on the Church to figure out? I think not!
Not a chance in hades would I leave my wife, relative, friend, or neighbor - I don't care what the church is asking. What's interesting to me is that my church would never ask in this circumstance (maybe that's a reflection on me and not my church). in my opinion, it goes "church" then "familes" - if families are even that high. Could be tithing in second. This, of course, is from an outsider looking in.
Maxrep wrote:Update: the program is actually only specific to one stake/ward operating on their own accord. It is not a church mandated pilot program. There was a communication error with the individual who told me about the program. My apologies.
Dr. Shades, since this is just a localized policy, rather than an official pilot program, it might be best to just strike the thread altogether. What do you think?
I don't think so...but Shades is welcome to disagree.
You're welcome to re-title it if you want, though.
I think it still shows how "Nazi-ish" the Church is in some of its' policies...even locally.
Maxrep wrote:Update: the program is actually only specific to one stake/ward operating on their own accord. It is not a church mandated pilot program. There was a communication error with the individual who told me about the program. My apologies.
Ahh, that makes quite a bit more sense.
Dr. Shades, since this is just a localized policy, rather than an official pilot program, it might be best to just strike the thread altogether. What do you think?
No, let's not strike it. Reporting what we hear, asking for clarification, and discussing things back-and-forth until we all get to the bottom of things is the nature of message boards.
Business as usual.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"