Panic! At the Interview: Bishop's Office Horrors

[_Some Schmo]

So SWK was asking for details on a homosexual couple, eh? Shocker! I've got $20 that says he went home, masturbated over the story, then started feeling guilty over his own homosexual feelings while licking his hand clean.

Ewwww. Didn't need that imagery this morning, Schmo.

Sorry about that, Trin.

When it occurred to me, it made me LOL, so I decided to share (and I actually toned down the language for it - apparently, I'm responsible for people feeling offended).

:)

[_wenglund]

I recently saw the movie "Blood Diamond", and was horrified by the all the rapes and murders and heart-wrenching deprevation and devistation taking place in Africa over highly compressed carbon.

I also watched "Flight 93" and other documentaries on 9/11, and was deeply sadden by the death and tragedy of that event, and the subsequent escallating loss of precious life in the war on terror.

I am somewhat familiar, too, with the Cambodian "killing Fields" and the large-scale genocides (in the millions) undertaken by Hitler, Stalen, Pol Pot, and others.

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well. With all the enormous challenges facing people throughout the world, I wonder what in the hell are we doing wasting our time obsessing about relatively trivial things that occured years ago?

I guess for some, though, no supposed victimization is too small to consider when feeding one's religious prejudice.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Mister Scratch]

I recently saw the movie "Blood Diamond", and was horrified by the all the rapes and murders and heart-wrenching deprevation and devistation taking place in Africa over highly compressed carbon.

I also watched "Flight 93" and other documentaries on 9/11, and was deeply sadden by the death and tragedy of that event, and the subsequent escallating loss of precious life in the war on terror.

I am somewhat familiar, too, with the Cambodian "killing Fields" and the large-scale genocides (in the millions) undertaken by Hitler, Stalen, Pol Pot, and others.

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well.

Huh. That's interesting, especially since your battles include:
---Attacking homosexuals
---Looking for a phantom "Mr. D"
---Trying to convince exmo's that they are "dysfunctional"
---Trying to convince exmos that they are "offensive"
---Trying to convince exmos that they are suffering from "cognitive distortions"
---Posting on RfM as "Dr. Phil"
---Trying to defend juliann's distortion of evidence

[_Some Schmo]

I recently saw the movie "Blood Diamond", and was horrified by the all the rapes and murders and heart-wrenching deprevation and devistation taking place in Africa over highly compressed carbon.

I also watched "Flight 93" and other documentaries on 9/11, and was deeply sadden by the death and tragedy of that event, and the subsequent escallating loss of precious life in the war on terror.

I am somewhat familiar, too, with the Cambodian "killing Fields" and the large-scale genocides (in the millions) undertaken by Hitler, Stalen, Pol Pot, and others.

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well. With all the enormous challenges facing people throughout the world, I wonder what in the hell are we doing wasting our time obsessing about relatively trivial things that occured years ago?

Typical Mormon pap to try to invalidate the experience of a woman in favor of defending the one true cult.

Did I mention snide jackass before? If I didn't, I will now. It bears repeating, if necessary.

[_Yoda]

I guess for some, though, no supposed victimization is too small to consider when feeding one's religious prejudice.

Is that what you honestly think KA's goal is here, Wade?

Do you think that she is really relating this experience just to further her "religious prejudice"?

Sorry, but I don't see it that way.

First of all, yes, there are many atrocities in the world today, and yes, it's easy for any one of us to compare our individual suffering trivial in comparison.

But frankly, I like to think that we have developed a comaraderie here on the board, and that KA is comfortable sharing this experience with us to aid her in her own process of self-healing.

I understand where KA is coming from, and can identify with what she was feeling. (I'll post more on my own reflections later when I have time to address them fully)

I think that your making an apples and oranges comparison to how her feelings really don't matter in the long run because of all of the other horrible happenings in the world is a cop out.

If that is the case, then all of us should just keep our mouths shut, keep our feelings pent up, and never be there for each other.

Maybe that's the way you perceive that people should live. I disagree.

If we can't be compassionate toward one another, then what's the point, Wade? Isn't that what Christ's core message is really all about?

You, yourself, have said in previous posts that everything comes down to love.

Frankly, those posts were a turning point in my dialog relationship with you.

For what it's worth, I HAVE seen a change in your attitude toward others, and appreciate it. I know that some here have thrown your older attitudes and posts back in your face, and I don't agree with it.

Don't fall into the trap of going back to the "old Wade", the "looking down on everyone Wade" simply because there are a few who refuse to see that your newer posts are more genuine.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I recently saw the movie "Blood Diamond", and was horrified by the all the rapes and murders and heart-wrenching deprevation and devistation taking place in Africa over highly compressed carbon.

I also watched "Flight 93" and other documentaries on 9/11, and was deeply sadden by the death and tragedy of that event, and the subsequent escallating loss of precious life in the war on terror.

I am somewhat familiar, too, with the Cambodian "killing Fields" and the large-scale genocides (in the millions) undertaken by Hitler, Stalen, Pol Pot, and others.

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well. With all the enormous challenges facing people throughout the world, I wonder what in the hell are we doing wasting our time obsessing about relatively trivial things that occured years ago?

I guess for some, though, no supposed victimization is too small to consider when feeding one's religious prejudice.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Isn't it interesting that in a world rife with need and devastating tragedy that the Mormon church is so interested in whether or not fifteen year old boys masturbate? Or if teenage girls French kiss? Or how many earrings women wear? Or if they drink coffee or tea?

I'm sure you're the only person on this board who was saddened by the 9/11 tragedy, Wade. You, who don't engage in such trivialities as posting Mormon experiences on a Mormon themed discussion board. You'd much rather do other productive things like offer unsolicited therapy! We can all see how superior you are, Wade. You have everything worked out for yourself and are in no need of therapy so you come here to give therapy to everyone else - and can't you see how we all appreciate it?!

You may have a few people fooled on this board, but you don't fool me, Wade. You're a hypocrite of the worst variety - and you're so damn deluded you probably don't even realize it. You reason in circles and never contribute anything but snide remarks or your infamous McTherapy to the discussions on this board. Well, maybe that's wrong. You give us someone to laugh at.

KA

[_wenglund]

I guess for some, though, no supposed victimization is too small to consider when feeding one's religious prejudice.

Is that what you honestly think KA's goal is here, Wade?

Do you think that she is really relating this experience just to further her "religious prejudice"?

I don't know for certain if that is what is driving her petty and aged smears against the Church (which is why I didn't explicity accuse her of that, but merely intimated it was a possibility), nor whether it may be something she is even fully cognizant of. But, I honestly and sincerely do believe there is ample evidence that strongly suggests it, if not give some cause for concern.

However, I am open to being corrected, and I respect your differing point of view.

In relation to the whole scheme of things, though, it's not really important enough to me to argue about it. I have little vested interest in holding my position regarding her, and will gladly accept Kimberlyann's word if she says that she is not driven by religious prejudice. The main point of my last post on this thread was to say that there are far more important and meaningful causes and battle that should be occupying our minds.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well. With all the enormous challenges facing people throughout the world, I wonder what in the hell are we doing wasting our time obsessing about relatively trivial things that occured years ago?

I guess for some, though, no supposed victimization is too small to consider when feeding one's religious prejudice.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

It's fascinating to me that you seem to minimize other people's sufferings and traumas because, to you, they pale in significance to greater tragedies (or is it because their sufferings involve the church that you love?). It would be like telling someone who just lost his wife and children in a car accident to suck it up because millions of people suffered and died in the holocaust.

The point is that, I wonder why in the hell you are wasting your time trivializing what is meaningful to other people? My son, whom I mentioned earlier, recently said something that I had never heard him say sincerely: "I'm sorry." I was ecstatic. He is learning empathy. Yes, that is minor and insignificant compared to, say, finding a cure for cancer, but it means a hell of a lot to my wife and me. I've heard you say over and over that you are interested in mutually workable strategies for building relationships of love and respect. That's not going to happen as long as you continue to dismiss the experience of others as some sort of whiny, self-pitying victimhood pose.

[_wenglund]

I recently saw the movie "Blood Diamond", and was horrified by the all the rapes and murders and heart-wrenching deprevation and devistation taking place in Africa over highly compressed carbon.

I also watched "Flight 93" and other documentaries on 9/11, and was deeply sadden by the death and tragedy of that event, and the subsequent escallating loss of precious life in the war on terror.

I am somewhat familiar, too, with the Cambodian "killing Fields" and the large-scale genocides (in the millions) undertaken by Hitler, Stalen, Pol Pot, and others.

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well. With all the enormous challenges facing people throughout the world, I wonder what in the hell are we doing wasting our time obsessing about relatively trivial things that occured years ago?

Typical Mormon pap to try to invalidate the experience of a woman in favor of defending the one true cult.

Did I mention snide jackass before? If I didn't, I will now. It bears repeating, if necessary.

Somebody apparently doesn't grasp the important and obvious (as well as ironic) distinction between putting something into proper perspective and "invalidating" it.

But, again, it's not worth quibbling about. To each their own.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Trinity]

I recently saw the movie "Blood Diamond", and was horrified by the all the rapes and murders and heart-wrenching deprevation and devistation taking place in Africa over highly compressed carbon.

I also watched "Flight 93" and other documentaries on 9/11, and was deeply sadden by the death and tragedy of that event, and the subsequent escallating loss of precious life in the war on terror.

I am somewhat familiar, too, with the Cambodian "killing Fields" and the large-scale genocides (in the millions) undertaken by Hitler, Stalen, Pol Pot, and others.

Then, I read here about Kimberlyann's tale of woes in being tramatized in her youth by chewing gum analogies and Bishop interviews regarding French kissing.

I don't know about any of you, but it kind of puts things into perspective and causes me to reflect more carefully about whether I have picked a worthy cause and have chosen my battles well. With all the enormous challenges facing people throughout the world, I wonder what in the hell are we doing wasting our time obsessing about relatively trivial things that occured years ago?

Typical Mormon pap to try to invalidate the experience of a woman in favor of defending the one true cult.

Did I mention snide jackass before? If I didn't, I will now. It bears repeating, if necessary.

Somebody apparently doesn't grasp the important and obvious (as well as ironic) distinction between putting something into proper perspective and "invalidating" it.

But, again, it's not worth quibbling about. To each their own.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I grasp it. I grasp that your comments on this thread are completely irrelevent to the subject matter and are to be taken within that proper perspective.