More Mos banned from the postmorg!

[_why me]

Why me, I am curious (if you don't mind) what is your religious background?

Catholic, Mormon, Catholic. I rotate between the catholic faith and the Mormon faith. I attend Mass and have contacts with catholic priests and nuns. I go on catholic retreats when possible. But I also have Mormon children and I cannot deny the Book of Mormon.

Maybe I have a dual personality. I have been upfront with my inactivity in the Mormon church which Polygamy Porter enjoys reminding me of. :=)

[_why me]

I can't say that I savor the victory. I think that it is all rather sad. My impressions of that board as defined in their mission statement is not a recovery board but a board that has moved beyond Mormonism. Such people should be able to have a dialogue with all types of people, LDS members, exmembers, postmo members, who may not be as negative as they are about the LDS church. That has always been my point. I believe that they mislead people by their mission statement. Hence, the LDS church press reads their mission statement, thinks of them as a decent and open organization, when in reality, it is an offshoot of RFM. In my humbe opinion.

Desseret News gave them a good writeup.

Who cares what you think they "should be" able to do. Just respect the boundaries set up for the board.

And what boundaries may that be? I only see mocking the LDS church. Is that a boundary? Do you post there?

Their mission statement relates a different boundary than the policy set for their boards.

[_beastie]

And what boundaries may that be? I only see mocking the LDS church. Is that a boundary? Do you post there?

Their mission statement relates a different boundary than the policy set for their boards.

You have to respect the policy set for the boards. This is obvious.

No, I don't post over there, but have gone over there to read a bit whenever someone over here whines about it.

[_beastie]

So how long ago were you banned, why me? I did a search for your posts and couldn't find any since last April. It sounded like you were given several chances.

I'm now actually considering joining the group, it looks like they have some interesting discussions at times.

[_capt jack]

Why me, I am curious (if you don't mind) what is your religious background?

Catholic, Mormon, Catholic. I rotate between the catholic faith and the Mormon faith. I attend Mass and have contacts with catholic priests and nuns. I go on catholic retreats when possible. But I also have Mormon children and I cannot deny the Book of Mormon.

Maybe I have a dual personality. I have been upfront with my inactivity in the Mormon church which Polygamy Porter enjoys reminding me of. :=)

You do know that the latest CHI says that belonging to another church is an excommunicable offense, don't you?

[_why me]

So how long ago were you banned, why me? I did a search for your posts and couldn't find any since last April. It sounded like you were given several chances.

I'm now actually considering joining the group, it looks like they have some interesting discussions at times.

I was banned two years ago. Last April, I tried my name and it worked. I posted a greeting and was banned. They had a quirk in their system because they changed their websetting.

What is my beef with them? It is simple: Their mission statement claims that they are not antimormon and yet, almost every post is against the LDS church. Their mission statement also claims a certain openmindedness about their experience in Mormonism by claiming that they hold onto the positive experiences in the LDS church. And yet, finding a post that is positive about the LDS experience is hard to come by.

How can the postmorgue mission statement and its discussion board be opposed to eachother? Is there deception in their mission statement? You can be the judge.

Also, the postmormon experience has many facets. It is not just made up of hostile former members. There are postmormons who have no regrets about their LDS experience. Postmormons who have moved on from the bitterness and are now living through different philosophies would certainly not find comfort in such negative posts as listed on the postmorgue.

Now if the mission statement and the board would match up...I would be satisfied and have no possible thoughts of possible deception. I just know that I felt deceived by their mission statement. But that is my own personal feeling and no reflection of how it actually may be.

[_beastie]

My guess is that they didn't ban you for making positive statements about the church, but rather for defending its truthfulness. But at this point, that's only a guess. I can't know for sure because it appears that when they changed their format, old posts disappeared.

It certainly appears to be the reason why they banned the latest, ElderPratt.

I'm sure if I went over there and made some positive statement about LDS culture or practice - like how they take care of their own (most of the time) - I wouldn't be banned.

If, however, I went over there and started arguing with people on points about the truthfulness of the church, I'd probably be banned. That's not because they are acting inconsistently with their overall mission statement, but rather because the board is not meant to be a debate board about the truthfulness of the church.

[_beastie]

A few of whyme's posts from his latest visit still do remain, and appear to support my guess:

They know because the Holy Ghost has told them so. That is a very good reason to know. Now whether or not we remember that first time that the Holy Ghost tesified to us that the church was true is quite another thing. When one gets up to bear her or his testimony and testifies as to the truth it should be because the holy ghost has given that person a witness. Don't you remember when you felt the promptings of the spirit?



I think that the key is found in the Holy Ghost and in the promptings.

http://www.postmormon.org/exp_e/index.p ... /726/#7595

This isn't just saying something positive about the LDS or your experience within it. It is a flat out theological defense of the faith.

Do you not understand the difference?

If they allow people like you to go there and defend the faith, it will become a debate board. There's nothing wrong with a debate board, but, obviously, that is not what they want.

[_Trevor]

More Mos banned from the postmorg. It seems that the postmorgites can't take the heat. The last Mormon was banned after 4 posts. I still don't understand how people who claim to be beyond Mormonism can be so intolerant of Mormonism. What a shame. It would be great to dialogue with them about their attitudes and beliefs without fear of banning.

But...it seems that exmos and postmos just can't take LDS logic. :=)

Let me get this straight. You are complaining because Mormons who go over to a board to argue with people who are trying to commiserate with each other about their past experience in the LDS Church get kicked off. Are you thinking straight?

Take a deep breath, reflect, and get real! These boards are not MA&D. Apologetics do not exist without critics, while fellowship boards do fine without either. If you want a real equivalent to an ex-mo or post-mo board kicking off a mo, go play angry ex-mo in the Fellowship section of MA&D. Then you may get an idea of what kind of twit you are being by hanging out what is essentially a fellowshipping board for former Mormons.

[_why me]

More Mos banned from the postmorg. It seems that the postmorgites can't take the heat. The last Mormon was banned after 4 posts. I still don't understand how people who claim to be beyond Mormonism can be so intolerant of Mormonism. What a shame. It would be great to dialogue with them about their attitudes and beliefs without fear of banning.

But...it seems that exmos and postmos just can't take LDS logic. :=)

Let me get this straight. You are complaining because Mormons who go over to a board to argue with people who are trying to commiserate with each other about their past experience in the LDS Church get kicked off. Are you thinking straight?

Take a deep breath, reflect, and get real! These boards are not MA&D. Apologetics do not exist without critics, while fellowship boards do fine without either. If you want a real equivalent to an ex-mo or post-mo board kicking off a mo, go play angry ex-mo in the Fellowship section of MA&D. Then you may get an idea of what kind of twit you are being by hanging out what is essentially a fellowshipping board for former Mormons.

My complaint is simple: put that in the postmormon mission statement. There is no commiserate impulse in the mission statement. In fact, the mission statement implies strong individuals who have left the church behind. They have come out of the cocoon (Mormonism)and they are now butterflies (postmormons) who are not antimormon and who are keeping all that was positive in the church.

See the problem?

No recovery message in mission statement, or pain.