A Mormon Gulag
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_karl61
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Although this is kind of impossible because of confidentiality: the state or county may be placing kids at this site. A lot of times when foster homes don't work out this type of "placement" is the only thing left. These places are all over California and they usally run between 6 and 8 grand a month for the kid, plus free government health and dental care.
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_GoodK
thestyleguy wrote:Although this is kind of impossible because of confidentiality: the state or county may be placing kids at this site. A lot of times when foster homes don't work out this type of "placement" is the only thing left. These places are all over California and they usally run between 6 and 8 grand a month for the kid, plus free government health and dental care.
The state does place kids in this place. Some kids are sent there after being in the juvenile court system. The church also pays for the families who can't afford it. They get their food from what is donated by the Bishops Storehouse or Warehouse or whatever it's called. I remember thinking that I can't believe a place like this exists in America.
We've interviewed former staff and over 20 people who were sent there.
Oddly enough, there are two sets of senior missionaries there.
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_Dr. Shades
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Was corporal punishment ever doled out? And if so, did it come about because of Chris Buttars, or in spite of him?
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_harmony
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GoodK wrote:thestyleguy wrote:Although this is kind of impossible because of confidentiality: the state or county may be placing kids at this site. A lot of times when foster homes don't work out this type of "placement" is the only thing left. These places are all over California and they usally run between 6 and 8 grand a month for the kid, plus free government health and dental care.
The state does place kids in this place. Some kids are sent there after being in the juvenile court system. The church also pays for the families who can't afford it. They get their food from what is donated by the Bishops Storehouse or Warehouse or whatever it's called. I remember thinking that I can't believe a place like this exists in America.
We've interviewed former staff and over 20 people who were sent there.
Oddly enough, there are two sets of senior missionaries there.
Why would you think this was a unique place? This is an antiquated and unscientific system, but hardly unique. A similar place is located about 8 miles from where I'm sitting right now. The only difference is, they aren't LDS; they're EV.
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_GoodK
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harmony wrote:GoodK wrote:thestyleguy wrote:Although this is kind of impossible because of confidentiality: the state or county may be placing kids at this site. A lot of times when foster homes don't work out this type of "placement" is the only thing left. These places are all over California and they usally run between 6 and 8 grand a month for the kid, plus free government health and dental care.
The state does place kids in this place. Some kids are sent there after being in the juvenile court system. The church also pays for the families who can't afford it. They get their food from what is donated by the Bishops Storehouse or Warehouse or whatever it's called. I remember thinking that I can't believe a place like this exists in America.
We've interviewed former staff and over 20 people who were sent there.
Oddly enough, there are two sets of senior missionaries there.
Why would you think this was a unique place? This is an antiquated and unscientific system, but hardly unique. A similar place is located about 8 miles from where I'm sitting right now. The only difference is, they aren't LDS; they're EV.
Umm... It is unique as far as residential treatment facilities go. And if you can think of a place that really is similar I'd love to hear about it ( by the way this place is entirely unique in the way it is ran)
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_Scottie
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GoodK wrote:No, it is a private run institution, which is why they are allowed to get away with the things they have gotten away with. (like forcing kids to pray, study the "scriptures", attend church and seminary, and all sorts of abuse which will be the focus of our film)
Are you saying that forcing kids to pray, study the "scriptures", attend church and seminary is equated with "abuse"? Or were there other actual abuses going on?
Edited to add:
I should probably read the whole thread before I comment...(where is the embarrassed smilie!??)
Dr. Shades wrote:Was corporal punishment ever doled out? And if so, did it come about because of Chris Buttars, or in spite of him?
Definitely. And I'm not sure if it was because of him, it certainly wasn't despite him. He is well hated by the consensus of boys we spoke with.
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_GoodK
Scottie wrote:GoodK wrote:No, it is a private run institution, which is why they are allowed to get away with the things they have gotten away with. (like forcing kids to pray, study the "scriptures", attend church and seminary, and all sorts of abuse which will be the focus of our film)
Are you saying that forcing kids to pray, study the "scriptures", attend church and seminary is equated with "abuse"? Or were there other actual abuses going on?
Edited to add:
I should probably read the whole thread before I comment...(where is the embarrassed smilie!??)Dr. Shades wrote:Was corporal punishment ever doled out? And if so, did it come about because of Chris Buttars, or in spite of him?
Definitely. And I'm not sure if it was because of him, it certainly wasn't despite him. He is well hated by the consensus of boys we spoke with.
The boys here had to wear wool blankets like towels instead of pants, with ropes tied around their waist serving as leashes. There are well documented accounts of physical abuse and at least one death that occurred. I'm not trying to be sensational at all, in fact, the opposite.
Forcing the Mormon religion on kids was just a small caveat, something I found relevant for this board.
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_GoodK