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Re: LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:28 pm
by _Buffalo
Fence Sitter wrote:
Buffalo wrote:The conservative members (read: 80% of the church) are going to hate this.


I think your estimate of 80% conservative members is conservative.

67% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


Actually I think remember seeing a study that said something close to 80%. Could be faulty memory though.

Re: LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:39 pm
by _Fence Sitter
Buffalo wrote:Actually I think remember seeing a study that said something close to 80%. Could be faulty memory though.


Not that I doubt you, but I would have thought the figure higher. Do you remember if that was for USA? I would think that in Utah it would be higher but I don't know.

Re: LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:21 am
by _TrashcanMan79
As he so often does, Rolly nails it: "Selective prohibitions of LDS Church lobbying"

The rant posted this week against the LDS Church’s support of the guest-worker bill passed by the Utah Legislature comes from a conservative group of mostly Mormons who seem incensed by any notion the church lobbied for immigration bills.

That group, however, hasn’t seemed too concerned about other instances of alleged church involvement in secular affairs.

Ron Mortensen, co-founder of the Utah Coalition on Illegal Immigration, wrote on the Center for Immigration Studies website, and repeated in an interview with The Salt Lake Tribune , that the LDS Church was involved in lobbying for the package of immigration bills that included the guest-worker bill. The guest-worker program, which would allow those in the U.S. illegally to apply for a legal work permit after paying a fine and meeting other conditions, would take effect in 2013.

Mortensen’s point is that LDS Church lobbying on the issue is a bad thing.

There wasn’t the same angst from that group or the vocal Republican delegates at the Salt Lake County convention when the church expressed its support for a bill taking flavored malt beverages out of grocery stores and put exclusively in state-controlled liquor stores — a statement that insured the change would happen.

Where was the angst from that group when the church was accused of meddling in California’s Proposition 8 election, which banned gay marriage?

Re: LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:50 am
by _moksha
Many people nationwide are very hopeful this Utah Compact idea backed by the LDS Church becomes a vital part of national immigration reform. This would well be a shining example of where, in the area of public policy, the Church took the side of the angels and was proactive on human rights.

Re: LDS Church takes public stance on immigration legislation

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:37 pm
by _Joseph
"The guest-worker program, which would allow those in the U.S. illegally to apply for a legal work permit after paying a fine and meeting other conditions"
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Once again highligting the CORE DOCTRINE and BELIEF of lds-inc: You can buy anything in this world for money. Also explains why big tom and the terrible twelve get paid...