Homophobic quote from Mormon fellow traveler NOM

[_Fence Sitter]

The more I am forced to read BC (through other people's quote's) the more I realize he has no clue his posterity will be able to read everything he has ever posted.


You would think he would learn from past Church leaders how embarrassing public statements come back to haunt people. I can see one of his future descendents, when confronted with grandpa Space's bigotry, replying "It's not doctrine".

[_lulu]

The more I am forced to read BC (through other people's quote's) the more I realize he has no clue his posterity will be able to read everything he has ever posted.


You would think he would learn from past Church leaders how embarrassing public statements come back to haunt people. I can see one of his future descendents, when confronted with grandpa Space's bigotry, replying "It's not doctrine".

Only if his posterity knows his screen name.

Although even then, its embarrassing enough.

[_maklelan]

Not homophobic (if such even exists).

If it even exists? I see you don't know how language works. For your information, "homophobic" is a descriptor. If someone uses the word to describe an observable behavior, whatever its nature, then homophobia demonstrably exists. It's as simple as that.

[_maklelan]

I'm not sure how you can call it "unnatural" in the first place. Aside from the numerous incidents of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom, if someone wants to do it, doesn't that make it natural? It's not like kids are trained to want gay sex any more than they're trained to want hetero sex. I certainly wasn't trained; I remember getting my first female slapped face at the age of 6. Nobody was encouraging me to try to kiss this girl.

You're confusing "unnatural" with "it makes me feel icky."

What he means is that it's a genetic mutation. It's not an intended genetic condition. Pointing out that it happens in animals doesn't really mean anything. Animals are not immune to unnatural genetics or behavior. On the other hand, just about everything is a genetic mutation, and being "unnatural" in that sense has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on our social or legal systems unless it violates the rights of others, which homosexuality simply does not. Any attempt at a defense of social or legal opposition to homosexuality is derivative of ideology and only ideology.

[_Yoda]

guest speaker (although quote not from his NOM guest speech.

But Scripture treats homosexual practice as even more severely unnatural (than bestiality).

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/02/what_an ... he_record/

Wow! This last comment in that article was really awful as well:

I also believe (and this is just basic common sense) that having homosexual males as boy scout leaders is as stupid as having heterosexual males as girl scout leaders. It is a recipe for sexual abuse.

(Bold emphasis mine.)

So now, heterosexual men, and I guess, indeed, homosexual men as well, are all just monsters who can't help but sexually abuse youngsters when put in a position of leadership over them?

Is that really what they're saying here?

Disgusting!

[_bcspace]

So now, heterosexual men, and I guess, indeed, homosexual men as well, are all just monsters who can't help but sexually abuse youngsters when put in a position of leadership over them?

Around 30% of sexual abuse is homosexual. Far out of proportion to the percentage of their numbers in society.

[_maklelan]

Around 30% of sexual abuse is homosexual. Far out of proportion to the percentage of their numbers in society.

By all means, point me to the studies that bear this statistic out. And I hope you aren't conflating pederasty and homosexuality (in the sense predominantly used contemporaneously) in this number, wherever it came from. That's a separate psychological issue.

[_Some Schmo]

It's not an intended genetic condition.

For 50 dollars, can you name an intended genetic condition?

[_maklelan]

For 50 dollars, can you name an intended genetic condition?

Yeah. A heartbeat. And about a billion other things. In your mind does anything significant hang on the question of whether or not there is such a thing?

[_lulu]

just about everything is a genetic mutation,

I'll go you one better.

Everything alive today is a genetic mutation.

Now start sorting out which ones are unnatural and which ones are intended and who intended them.