mentalgymnast wrote:Shulem wrote:...you are not even a member of Joseph Smith's original Mormon church...
It does depend on whether or not the CofJCofLDS holds the keys of authority passed down from the time of Joseph Smith. And whether or not you believe he had those keys.
If he did, then yes, I would consider myself a member of the original church restored by Joseph Smith under the authority of Jesus Christ.
Regards,
MG
The keys of priesthood authority which Smith held were imaginary and self proclaimed. Those same imaginary keys have been passed down through generations given to men as church doctrine morphs and apostatizes into new things. The keys held by the present day leaders are no more real than the keys held by Smith or the king's name written in the writing of Facsimile No. 3, Fig. 2.
Again, President Smith and his father, the Patriarch of the church, would excommunicate you and cast you out of the Kirtland society wherewith you would pack your bags and be gone. You have insulted the prophetic mantle of the church and mocked the prophet. Father Smith revealed that men live on the moon and that the gospel of this kingdom will be preached to those people.
Joseph Smith rebukes you, MG. The Spirit rebukes you in the name of Jesus Christ! You have no place in Kirtland -- let all the saints rebuke you and shake off the dust of their feet. Your name is to be removed from the records of the church. Don't show your face in Kirtland again. You've been warned.
Even so, Amen.