What I hope to see as a result of this clown fiasco is a change among the M2C citation cartel specifically and LDS scholarship generally.
First, Dan Peterson should own up to his own complicity in accommodating and promoting the entire charade.
Second, any legitimate scholars associated with the Interpreter, Book of Mormon Central, BYU Studies, or any other publication/organization that employs, publishes, or works with this crew should seriously reconsider.
Third, LDS scholars should embrace in practice, and not just give lip service to, the basic principle set forth in the recent issue of BYU Studies, along with the “no more contention” theme of the recent General Conference.
I don't know. "Clown fiasco" and "M2C citation cartel" are not the kind of terms I would use if I were seeking to start fresh with this relationship.
Of course, it is not as though the Mopologists are going to be penitent about any of this.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
What I hope to see as a result of this clown fiasco is a change among the M2C citation cartel specifically and LDS scholarship generally.
First, Dan Peterson should own up to his own complicity in accommodating and promoting the entire charade.
Second, any legitimate scholars associated with the Interpreter, Book of Mormon Central, BYU Studies, or any other publication/organization that employs, publishes, or works with this crew should seriously reconsider.
Third, LDS scholars should embrace in practice, and not just give lip service to, the basic principle set forth in the recent issue of BYU Studies, along with the “no more contention” theme of the recent General Conference.
I don't know. "Clown fiasco" and "M2C citation cartel" are not the kind of terms I would use if I were seeking to start fresh with this relationship.
Of course, it is not as though the Mopologists are going to be penitent about any of this.
He knows they wouldn’t reciprocate. MoPologists are nothing without the drama.
I thought it was interesting that Parker is now trying to get Neville on his side by attacking Reel. From the OP link:
In fact, “Mike Parker” (or whoever is sending me emails in his name) has already started. He emailed me, saying that “Bill Reel is a liar and a narcissist. He will say anything to harm The Church of Jesus Christ and those who advocate for the restored gospel. He is not interested in “open dialog”; he is interested in furthering his own agenda.”
This is the only comment I've seen from Zparker since the Reel podcast. If it is from Parker, it is an exceptionally inaccurate statement, and shows he has no remorse for his part in this. That's pretty chilling.
And a pretty good summing up, also from link in OP
...The pseudonym “Peter Pan” was a Freudian slip by the boy(s) who created it. Like them, Peter Pan never grows up. They couldn’t have adopted a more apt identity.
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Next, Robert Boylen. All I know about him is what is in this video, where he accuses “Heartlanders” of racism (a common theme promoted by the M2C citation cartel members). Naturally, he also virtue signals by proclaiming he is “against” racism.
But when he allegedly invents an identify behind “Peter Pan,” what is the first thing he thinks of?
A Black LDS apologist living in Alabama!
His choice reveals his mindset and his obsession with race, despite his virtue signaling.
Plus, he and Parker characterize it as a “joke.”
Think: the supposedly “non-racist” Boylen invents a Black American persona as a joke. But only he and his apologist collaborators think his despicable racist “joke” is funny
In the video, Boylen and Parker cite as justification a post Rian Nelson supposedly made about the open borders issue (the Biden administration not enforcing the law). Even assuming they accurately relate what Rian wrote, the border question involves a public policy issue of enforcing the law and has nothing to do with race. People of many races and national origins cross the open border.
But let’s say, arguendo, that Boylen and Parker are correct that the border is a racial issue. Even in that case, the open border has nothing to do with Black Americans generally, and definitely not the Black American that Boylen invented as the identity of “Peter Pan.”
According to the video, Richard Nygren is purely the racist invention of Boylen and his collaborators.
We have a cascading series of clownness here.
First, it is astonishing that Boylen lacks such self-awareness of his own racism.
Second, it’s even more astonishing that Parker didn’t point this out to Boylen when this all started and put an end to it, either immediately or later. Instead, Parker played along with it.
Third, it’s yet more astonishing that Dan Peterson, Steven O. Smoot, and Spencer Kraus didn’t object to Boylen’s racism and subterfuge. Instead, they played along with and amplified it.
Fourth, the apex of astonishment is that the editorial boards of the Interpreter and Book of Mormon Central promulgated this racist fraud by publishing Kraus’ two articles that cited “Peter Pan” and Mike Parker as separate contributors.
Everyone can all see the evidence on display as Bill Reel has pointed out...
And a pretty good summing up, also from link in OP
...The pseudonym “Peter Pan” was a Freudian slip by the boy(s) who created it. Like them, Peter Pan never grows up. They couldn’t have adopted a more apt identity.
_____
Next, Robert Boylen. All I know about him is what is in this video, where he accuses “Heartlanders” of racism (a common theme promoted by the M2C citation cartel members). Naturally, he also virtue signals by proclaiming he is “against” racism.
But when he allegedly invents an identify behind “Peter Pan,” what is the first thing he thinks of?
A Black LDS apologist living in Alabama!
His choice reveals his mindset and his obsession with race, despite his virtue signaling.
Plus, he and Parker characterize it as a “joke.”
Think: the supposedly “non-racist” Boylen invents a Black American persona as a joke. But only he and his apologist collaborators think his despicable racist “joke” is funny
In the video, Boylen and Parker cite as justification a post Rian Nelson supposedly made about the open borders issue (the Biden administration not enforcing the law). Even assuming they accurately relate what Rian wrote, the border question involves a public policy issue of enforcing the law and has nothing to do with race. People of many races and national origins cross the open border.
But let’s say, arguendo, that Boylen and Parker are correct that the border is a racial issue. Even in that case, the open border has nothing to do with Black Americans generally, and definitely not the Black American that Boylen invented as the identity of “Peter Pan.”
According to the video, Richard Nygren is purely the racist invention of Boylen and his collaborators.
We have a cascading series of clownness here.
First, it is astonishing that Boylen lacks such self-awareness of his own racism.
Second, it’s even more astonishing that Parker didn’t point this out to Boylen when this all started and put an end to it, either immediately or later. Instead, Parker played along with it.
Third, it’s yet more astonishing that Dan Peterson, Steven O. Smoot, and Spencer Kraus didn’t object to Boylen’s racism and subterfuge. Instead, they played along with and amplified it.
Fourth, the apex of astonishment is that the editorial boards of the Interpreter and Book of Mormon Central promulgated this racist fraud by publishing Kraus’ two articles that cited “Peter Pan” and Mike Parker as separate contributors.
Everyone can all see the evidence on display as Bill Reel has pointed out...
When I read this on Neville's blog I couldn't help wondering if his consistent misspelling of Boylan's name was a deliberate poke at the guy who he says complained about people mispronouncing his name, but refused to tell them the correct pronunciation.
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What really cracks me up is the mopologists attacking the heartlanders because... What? Their fake evidence (still fake) is slightly less egregiously fake than the heartlander's (also) fake evidence? Unreal.
What really cracks me up is the mopologists attacking the heartlanders because... What? Their fake evidence (still fake) is slightly less egregiously fake than the heartlander's (also) fake evidence? Unreal.
It's like if two groups of people were fighting over whether Gondor was historically focused around Greece or Panama.
I'm a bit surprised that no one has asked Dr. Peterson about this in the "Comments" section at SeN--e.g., Dr. O'atmeal. Or perhaps someone has, but the comment was instantly censored?
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
I'm a bit surprised that no one has asked Dr. Peterson about this in the "Comments" section at SeN--e.g., Dr. O'atmeal. Or perhaps someone has, but the comment was instantly censored?
What’s the point of asking that Apex Boomer anything? He’ll either deflect with some dumb-as-crap comment, or he’ll play the long-suffering aggrieved victim so he can milk back slaps from his retarded sycophants. Meh. Best to let him waddle off to his next Cruise Lady trip to some country so he can eat there and blow us away with “it was good” food reviews.
