Nelson reaffirms TK smoothie doctrine that gender is not eternal

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Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Nelson's talk was horrible, but he did not affirm TK smoothie doctrine or say gender isn't eternal.

I took those remarks to suggest gender bits won't work for Telestial bodies. Like, no "smoothie" but perfectly-restored, functionless decorations.

Like the heart, which will also be useless in resurrected bodies.

Or so the doctrine aligns.
Functionless is inconsistent with perfectly restored. I'm working on restoring a 1971 MGB GT (that year and model was my first car). I might upgrade the radio to something that's not original, but at a minimum, I need a functioning AM/FM radio. Something merely cosmetic but that didn't work wouldn't be a proper restoration.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Nelson's talk was horrible, but he did not affirm TK smoothie doctrine or say gender isn't eternal.

I took those remarks to suggest gender bits won't work for Telestial bodies. Like, no "smoothie" but perfectly-restored, functionless decorations.

Like the heart, which will also be useless in resurrected bodies.

Or so the doctrine aligns.
Here’s what Nelson said.
Mortality is a master class in learning to choose the things of greatest eternal import. Far too many people live as though this life is all there is. However, your choices today will determine three things: where you will live throughout all eternity, the kind of body with which you will be resurrected, and those with whom you will live forever.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... n?lang=eng

I’d like to see the actual doctrine that leads Nelson to believe that there will differences in the body types based on inherited kingdom.

Oaks, April 2000 said…
The literal and universal nature of the resurrection is vividly described in the Book of Mormon. The prophet Amulek taught:

“The death of Christ shall loose the bands of this temporal death, that all shall be raised from this temporal death.

“The spirit and the body shall be reunited again in its perfect form; both limb and joint shall be restored to its proper frame, even as we now are at this time; …

Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame” (Alma 11:42–44).
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng#kicker1
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Guys… D&C 76.

70 These are they whose bodies are celestial, whose glory is that of the sun, even the glory of God, the highest of all, whose glory the sun of the firmament is written of as being typical.

71 And again, we saw the terrestrial world, and behold and lo, these are they who are of the terrestrial, whose glory differs from that of the church of the Firstborn who have received the fulness of the Father, even as that of the moon differs from the sun in the firmament.

72 Behold, these are they who died without law;

73 And also they who are the spirits of men kept in prison, whom the Son visited, and preached the gospel unto them, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh;

74 Who received not the testimony of Jesus in the flesh, but afterwards received it.

75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.

76 These are they who receive of his glory, but not of his fulness.

77 These are they who receive of the presence of the Son, but not of the fulness of the Father.

78 Wherefore, they are bodies terrestrial, and not bodies celestial, and differ in glory as the moon differs from the sun.
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Evil Nelson

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Boogeyman Nelson wrote:However, your choices today will determine three things:
  • where you will live throughout all eternity
  • the kind of body with which you will be resurrected
  • those with whom you will live forever.
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Threats, threats, and more threats! Fear will keep the Mormons in line! Threaten the men that if they don't obey then they will lose their penises! Threaten loved ones that they will be eternally separated and forever miserable for things they do in a short lifespan here on earth.

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Bugger off, Nelson. You're an evil and wretched man. Go to hell!
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Don’t forget there are also literal eternal Infants on Thrones.

It’s all made up and the points don’t matter.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:18 pm
Guys… D&C 76.

70 These are they whose bodies are celestial, whose glory is that of the sun, even the glory of God, the highest of all, whose glory the sun of the firmament is written of as being typical.

71 And again, we saw the terrestrial world, and behold and lo, these are they who are of the terrestrial, whose glory differs from that of the church of the Firstborn who have received the fulness of the Father, even as that of the moon differs from the sun in the firmament.

72 Behold, these are they who died without law;

73 And also they who are the spirits of men kept in prison, whom the Son visited, and preached the gospel unto them, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh;

74 Who received not the testimony of Jesus in the flesh, but afterwards received it.

75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.

76 These are they who receive of his glory, but not of his fulness.

77 These are they who receive of the presence of the Son, but not of the fulness of the Father.

78 Wherefore, they are bodies terrestrial, and not bodies celestial, and differ in glory as the moon differs from the sun.
This conflicts with the Alma scripture that Oaks quoted
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Size matters

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What about penis size in the resurrection?

Big, little, tiny?

How is size determined or is everyone going to have the same size?

Dirty Harry said a man has got to know his limitations.

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There is a lot of modern Mormonism that isn’t in the Book of Mormon.

The restoration = freedom to make up new things.
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Re: Nelson reaffirms TK smoothie doctrine that gender is not eternal

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drumdude wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:38 pm
Don’t forget there are also literal eternal Infants on Thrones.
https://infantsonthrones.com/
It’s all made up and the points don’t matter.
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