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The Proprietor's love for Stephan Schwartz makes perfect sense once you take a quick look at Stephan's biography. It's similar to reading a biography of L. Ron Hubbard or Joseph Smith. Here are some interesting tidbits in no particular order:
I’ve done this both as an experimentalist in parapsychology, and by being privileged to have been a part of several major social transformations: civil rights in the 1960s, the transformation of the military from an elitist conscription organization to an all-voluntary meritocracy in the 70s, and citizen diplomacy between the United States and the Soviet Union in the 80s and 90s.
His experimental research focuses on remote viewing, which he has used to make significant discoveries in the field of archaeology.
Schwartz had another apparently-paranormal experience when, having served a tour in the US Army as a conscript, he was visiting Williamsburg, Virginia, where his mother’s family had lived since the 1600s. Walking in a colonial-era street at night he encountered a man dressed in period costume, who entered a house by walking through the closed front door. A local historian traced the address to an ancestor of Schwartz, whose portrait he recognized as the ghost.
Aged 24, Schwartz experienced a spiritual crisis which led him to realize that so far he had lived by shallow values, and lacked a meaningful inner life. At this time he was introduced to the work of the healing psychic Edgar Cayce and reviewed some of Cayce’s readings on a visit to the Association of Research and Enlightenment (ARE) in Virginia Beach. Many of these impressed him, in particular one which contained ancient information that was unknown to historians at the time of the reading but that was verified eleven years later through the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls.
Schwartz attended two healings by the Shoshone shaman Rolling Thunder, watching as he appeared to draw out the misty form of a wolf from an injured boy, whose wound healed immediately. Rolling Thunder’s work especially convinced Schwartz that his way forward was experimental, paving the way to his parapsychological achievements.
In 1976, Schwartz collaborated with an archaeologist to try to trace an idol and archaeological sites in Mexico. Schwartz reports that the remote viewing aspect worked but the fieldwork, which he did not direct, was incomplete and gave poor feedback
Schwartz’s next project is his best known: psychic archaeology tests in the Egyptian city of Alexandria, which he chose for its importance to the intellectual heritage of the West.10 He secured funding and began assembling a research team in the fall of 1978. To try to enhance the accuracy of the remote viewing, he used fifteen psychics, both experienced and beginners, to obtain consensus findings. Each was given a map and asked to look for the lost tomb of the ancient conqueror Alexander the Great and the remains of the Library of Alexandria, the ancient world’s leading bibliographic collection, which had been destroyed by Christians in the early Christian era.

Three common areas were pinpointed by the viewers, including one linked in city folklore to Alexander’s resting place, the Nebi Daniel mosque in central Alexandria. Several psychics also said they sensed something significant in the waters of the city’s East Harbour.
https://stephanaschwartz.com/

https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/arti ... n-schwartz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg51ogftaR0
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:11 pm
Interesting! Wow. Talk about synchronicity. This morning after my usual session of qigong patterned after the teachings of Shi Heng Yi, who himself is the 35th Generation of Shaolin Masters, and is the headmaster of the Shaolin Temple in Europe, I decided to take a breakfast of artisanal avocado toast adorned with edible yeast flakes, paired with a rare Himalayan pink salt-infused poached egg. This ensemble was, of course, accompanied by a meticulously crafted organic acai bowl topped with hand-picked siriguela. It was good!

I followed breakfast with coffee, made with a single-origin, ethically sourced coffee bean that's been through a civet cat's ass, meticulously handpicked from the dung, roasted by a local alchemist, and brewed using a vintage siphon. It's a brew so exclusive that I truly believe only a select few truly appreciate its acquired taste! I paired this delight with lo-fi Icelandic post-rock, played on a vinyl record on my 1968 Victrola. Honestly? I was so immersed I didn’t know if I was listening to music or decoding a secret message from a distant galaxy! It was fun!

As such, I was ready to settle in for a reading of Dean Radin's The Conscious Universe: The Scientific Truth of Psychic Phenomena. What can I say? His research and books are like a mind-bending rollercoaster through the quantum realm, where every twist and turn leaves you questioning the very fabric of reality. Radin has a knack for making you believe that your coffee mug full of civet crap coffee might be having a telepathic conversation with your toaster, all while citing experiments that make you raise an eyebrow higher than a scaredy cat’s arched back. Ha.

In this tome, Radin weaves a tapestry of psychic phenomena and quantum entanglement that could make even Schrodinger’s cat (ha) scratch its head in confusion. It's a wild ride where statistical significance dances with the paranormal, leaving you both astounded and slightly amused.

While some may see Radin as the daring explorer of the uncharted territories of consciousness, others might suspect he's the mischievous wizard casting spells with p-values. Whether you're a skeptic searching for loopholes or a true believer in the cosmic dance of mind and matter, Radin's work is bound to entertain and challenge your perceptions. Buckle up, because in Radin's world, reality is just a suggestion, and the journey is as enigmatic as a quantum particle's path! It was neat!

Sadly, after visiting Dowsin’ Dan’s blog and reading his latest turd, thanks to Drumdude, I don’t believe he addressed alternative explanations, or considered the role of psychological and cultural factors in shaping individuals' perceptions of exceptional experiences. Dowsin’ Dan, always, omits the importance of rigorous scientific methods and the need for more empirical research to substantiate claims about the relationship between nonlocality and these phenomena he lists. Sure, psychic are intriguing , but they consistently fall short of meeting the standards required for scientific credibility.

Anyway, I recommend to Sick and Nones obsessive lurkers "The Conscious Universe" and "Entangled Minds," by Radin. I understand quantum mechanics, as it relates to our understanding of consciousness and extraordinary experiences, isn’t as relatable as Dan’s soothsayers and 19th century degenerate-prophets, but he’s going to have to buckle down and actually read some good literature for once in his life.

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:lol: Doc your posts are killing me!! I have no doubt your cat poop coffee is free range sourced.
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DCP wrote: I’m now inclined to believe that some such things (e.g., perception at a distance, extraordinary knowing) are demonstrably real, though typically at a very weak “signal strength.”
:roll: Oh look. Coincidence re-defined. With a background demonstration of gullibility.
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From the abstract of the article which convinced DCP:
First, the abstract:

Two hundred years of reductive materialism has failed to explain the extraordinary experiences we know as moments of genius, religious epiphany, and psychic insight....
Followed by...no proof or even justification whatsoever of this statement, which is demonstrably untrue. Granted, it is just the abstract, so maybe the reading is more supportive of this conclusion, but somehow I doubt it. The mopologetic mindset seems primed to accept things like this, maybe because so many mopologetic arguments are equally as weak.
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By the way, here's some additional information on the journal that published the 2010 paper that so convinces DCP:
Explore: The Journal of Science & Healing is an interdisciplinary journal that publishes papers on alternative medicine six times per year. It was established in 2005 and is published by Elsevier. The executive editor is faith healing advocate Larry Dossey, and the co-editors-in-chief are hypnotherapist, acupuncturist, and herbalist Benjamin Kligler, an associate professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine,[1] and parapsychologist Dean Radin. The journal has been described as a "sham masquerading as a real scientific journal" which publishes "truly ridiculous studies",[2] such as Masaru Emoto's claimed demonstration of the effect of "distant intention" on water crystal formation.[3][4]

...Explore has been heavily criticized both for the content it publishes and the beliefs of its editorial team.

Its self-description and author information explicitly includes pseudoscientific topics well outside the mainstream of medical practice.

Critics have noted this willingness to publish work in areas lacking a scientific basis, and have labelled it a "quack journal" which "doesn't limit itself to just one quackery, the way [the journal] Homeopathy does", a publisher of "truly ridiculous studies", and as a "sham masquerading as a real scientific journal".
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explore:_ ... 26_Healing
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Well. It could also be said that the Interpreter is a publication "masquerading as a real ... journal," but still. A 13 year old article from a quack journal? What is DCP thinking??
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DanielPeterson wrote:I have no particular interest in Stephan Schwartz and know little to nothing about him. As far as I'm aware, he could be a cannibalistic vegan who is convinced that Abraham Lincoln and the real author of "Hamlet" teamed up to shoot JFK. I don't care.

All I care about is the article itself -- to which, thus far, my online critics have predictably paid no actual attention.
lol. except that people have noted that it is a 13 year old article published in a "sham masquerading as a real scientific journal" that "explicitly includes pseudoscientific topics."

Let's see how DCP spins that! Or not. He's getting boring. I would rather read about Doc's next gustatorial adventure and the accompanying tome he speed-reads. (or, maybe like DCP, he just reads the single digit numbered pages. Either way, his tales are far more interesting. :twisted: )
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Marcus wrote:
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He's getting boring.
He really is. SeN is a broken record.
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If anyone is a glutton for punishment, here is the entire article for free (click on the button on the upper-right for a pdf download or just scroll down a couple of pages for the full text version): https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... sciousness

How much do you want to bet the article has nothing to do with what DCP represents it says?
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I read an interesting paper this afternoon—Alexandre Caroli Rocha, et al., “Investigating the Fit and Accuracy of Alleged Mediumistic Writing: A Case Study of Chico Xavier's Letters,” Explore 10/5 (September/October 2014): 300-308—from which I’ll share some excerpts.

From the abstract:
Context: The study of mediumship is important because if mediumistic abilities were real, they would provide empirical support for non-reductionist theories of the mind, thus having major implications to our understanding of the mind–brain relationship. This study investigated the alleged mediumship of Chico Xavier, a very prolific and influential “medium” in Brazil.

Objective: To investigate the accuracy of the information conveyed in Xavier’s “psychographed” letters (i.e., letters allegedly authored by a deceased personality) and to explore the possible explanations for it.

Method: After a systematic search for Xavier’s psychographed letters, we selected one set of 13 letters allegedly written by a same spiritual author (J.P.). The letters were initially screened for the identification of items of information that were objectively verifiable. The accuracy of the information conveyed by these items and the estimated likelihood of the Xavier’s access to the information via ordinary means were rated using Fit and Leak scales based on documents and interviews carried out with the sister and friends of J.P.

Results: We identified 99 items of verifiable information conveyed in these 13 letters; 98% of these items were rated as “Clear and Precise Fit” and no item was rated as “no Fit.” We concluded that ordinary explanations for accuracy of the information (i.e., fraud, chance, information leakage, and cold reading) were only remotely plausible. These results seem to provide empirical support for non-reductionist theories of consciousness.
Some information about Chico Xavier:
Chico Xavier (1910–2002) was a Brazilian medium who produced a wide range of mediumistic phenomena and is considered one of the most prolific and influential mediums of the 20th century. Xavier was raised in a very poor and illiterate Catholic family in a rural village in Brazil. He received only an elementary education (until fourth grade) and started to work at eight years of age in a local weaving mill. Throughout his life, Xavier produced, allegedly by “psychography” (writing under the influence of a deceased person), more than 450 books covering a wide range of genres and styles: novels, poetry, children’s books, short stories, letters, and essays on scientific and philosophical topics. ...

A number of archived film footages show Xavier at work: He would pick up a pencil, with his right hand on a sheet of paper and his left hand over his eyes, and he would sit in silence for a couple of minutes. Then his right hand would slide over his paper at great speed, never going over the edge of the paper. When a page was filled, a person sitting next to him would remove the sheet and put another one in its place. In this way, Xavier would cover about 20 large sheets of paper in a few minutes.

Another important aspect of Xavier’s mediumistic work was the production of personal messages allegedly written by deceased personalities to relatives and friends who were left behind. These messages were usually written in weekly public sessions where hundreds of bereaved would attend with the hope of receiving a letter from their deceased loved ones. It is estimated that Xavier produced 10,000 of these personal letters. Often, these letters would contain personal information about the deceased and their family, proper names, surnames and nicknames, and detailed descriptions of their death.
I believe the paper’s findings, if they can be validated, would strike a fatal blow to reductive materialism. To quote Hamlet: “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,/Than are dreamt of in your philosophy” (Hamlet, 1.5. 165–66).

The full paper can be read here: https://ameribeiraopreto.files.wordpres ... etters.pdf
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