
The Church is going to monetise temple cafeterias…
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You might want to let the membership know it’s a joke, temple attendance nearly went up! 

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I dunno MG. I'm not sure that this is a joke. Here's a headline from a Chik-fil-a press release from last year.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:14 pmApril Fools!!I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:29 pmFast Food Franchises coming to a temple near you soon…Gallon-sized Cokes will help keep patrons awake at least…
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Chick-fil-A Announces New Temple Restaurant, Opening Oct. 24
https://www.chick-fil-a.com/press-room/ ... west-adams
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NewNameNoah used to have a public video where he filmed himself renting temple clothing with a custom credit card. The custom credit card had a screencap of the endowment movie, specifically one with a picture of the Satan character on it. Watching the confused temple worker do a double take after being handed the credit card was good for a chuckle.
The Salt Lake Temple had good pies and the vegetables always seemed fresh. It was pretty much the same food they served in the BYU cafeteria and in the MTC. Decent, but hardly praiseworthy.
The Provo Temple used to have good biscuits n' gravy. In fact, there was a time when 2 of the cooks in the Provo Temple were the former owners of an Italian place that used to be located around 100 North about block from campus. I can’t remember the name of the restaurant but it was in the basement of a non-descript building. The family had moved to Provo from Italy to open a restaurant. It had amazing authentic Italian food but was in a terrible location. La Dolce Vita is a good Italian restaurant as well, but that basement Italian restaurant was freaking amazing.
The Salt Lake Temple had good pies and the vegetables always seemed fresh. It was pretty much the same food they served in the BYU cafeteria and in the MTC. Decent, but hardly praiseworthy.
The Provo Temple used to have good biscuits n' gravy. In fact, there was a time when 2 of the cooks in the Provo Temple were the former owners of an Italian place that used to be located around 100 North about block from campus. I can’t remember the name of the restaurant but it was in the basement of a non-descript building. The family had moved to Provo from Italy to open a restaurant. It had amazing authentic Italian food but was in a terrible location. La Dolce Vita is a good Italian restaurant as well, but that basement Italian restaurant was freaking amazing.
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Yes, my A.I. quote on the last page mentioned this very thing.Morley wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:39 pmI dunno MG. I'm not sure that this is a joke. Here's a headline from a Chik-fil-a press release from last year.
Chick-fil-A Announces New Temple Restaurant, Opening Oct. 24
https://www.chick-fil-a.com/press-room/ ... west-adams
I'm assuming that IHQ knew it was all a gag.
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Meh. Apologies, MG, but I only occasionally read the walls of word salad gibberish that’s copied and posted from some A.I. harvest. I’ll read most anything a real person thinks through and posts, but in a real conversation, a pasted A.I. post is usually trite and condescending.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:49 pmYes, my A.I. quote on the last page mentioned this very thing.Morley wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:39 pmI dunno MG. I'm not sure that this is a joke. Here's a headline from a Chik-fil-a press release from last year.
Chick-fil-A Announces New Temple Restaurant, Opening Oct. 24
https://www.chick-fil-a.com/press-room/ ... west-adams
I'm assuming that IHQ knew it was all a gag.
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Nice.Morley wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:19 amMeh. Apologies, MG, but I only occasionally read the walls of word salad gibberish that’s copied and posted from some A.I. harvest. I’ll read most anything a real person thinks through and posts, but in a real conversation, a pasted A.I. post is usually trite and condescending.
I have used chat bots before and I heartily acknowledge their worth, but I can sit in a corner somewhere and ask an A.I. program questions all by myself. I’m more than capable of typing sentences into a computer and filtering the result.
I come here for the same reason I go to a coffee shop or take a history class; for the same reason I talk to my friends, phone my kids, travel to Ireland, or walk my dog. I do it for the human interaction. I do it for the human ideas, passions, and foibles. I learn a great deal.
I have a friend who I meet every week for coffee, donuts, and creating things from clay. While we work, we talk about the world, religion, and politics. Never once, when I’ve asked him what he thought about the blacks in the priesthood, did he google up some chatbot response. I hadn’t really thought about it before, but I’m kind of glad.
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Offerings include:
The Celestial Combo – Chick-fil-A sandwich, Idaho-sourced waffle fries, and a lemonade served in a clear cup with subtle gold foil trim
Nuggets of Eternal Truth – Bite-sized chicken blessings perfect for pre- or post-endowment nourishment
Peace Be Still Peach Milkshake – Comforting, calming, and worth every calorie
Chick-fil-A became the favorite fast food joint in Utah once it was known that they held the same dislike of LGBTQ people as Mormons and were willing to express them in their discrimination policies.
The Celestial Combo – Chick-fil-A sandwich, Idaho-sourced waffle fries, and a lemonade served in a clear cup with subtle gold foil trim
Nuggets of Eternal Truth – Bite-sized chicken blessings perfect for pre- or post-endowment nourishment
Peace Be Still Peach Milkshake – Comforting, calming, and worth every calorie
Chick-fil-A became the favorite fast food joint in Utah once it was known that they held the same dislike of LGBTQ people as Mormons and were willing to express them in their discrimination policies.
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To flesh things out just a bit more:
What you say may be true up to a point.Does Chik Fil A company/organization dislike LGBTQ people?
Chick-fil-A has faced significant controversy regarding its relationship with the LGBTQ community, primarily due to its history of donations and public statements by its leadership. The controversy began in earnest in 2012 when CEO Dan Cathy made public comments opposing same-sex marriage, which coincided with revelations that the company’s charitable arm, the WinShape Foundation, had donated millions to organizations perceived as hostile to LGBTQ rights. These actions led to widespread protests, boycotts, and efforts to block the chain’s expansion in certain locations.
Charitable Donations and Policy Changes
For years, Chick-fil-A’s foundation donated to groups such as the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and The Salvation Army, both criticized for anti-LGBTQ stances.
In 2019, Chick-fil-A announced it would stop donating to these organizations, stating future donations would focus on charities addressing education, homelessness, and hunger, and none would have anti-LGBTQ positions.
However, the company did not establish permanent criteria to exclude donations to groups criticized as anti-LGBTQ, leaving the door open for future controversy.
Leadership and Ongoing Criticism
Dan Cathy, the company’s owner, has continued to support organizations like the National Christian Foundation, which actively opposes LGBTQ rights and the Equality Act.
Critics argue that while the company’s official donation policies have changed, the leadership’s personal beliefs and some indirect support for anti-LGBTQ causes persist.
LGBTQ advocacy groups, such as GLAAD, have acknowledged positive steps but emphasize that Chick-fil-A still lacks comprehensive policies to ensure safe and inclusive workplaces for LGBTQ employees and has not fully addressed its anti-LGBTQ reputation.
Workplace Experiences
Reports from employees have been mixed, with some describing supportive environments and others recounting experiences of homophobia and fear of discrimination at certain locations.
The company has not been publicly accused of systemic discrimination in employment but has been criticized for not having explicit policies protecting LGBTQ workers.
Is there a direct parallel between Chik Fil A's positions in this regard and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?
There are notable parallels between Chick-fil-A’s positions regarding LGBTQ issues and those of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), but there are also important distinctions in context, motivation, and scope.
Key Parallels
1. Opposition to Same-Sex Marriage
Both Chick-fil-A (through its leadership and past charitable giving) and the LDS Church have publicly opposed same-sex marriage. Chick-fil-A’s CEO has made statements against same-sex marriage, and the company has donated to organizations with similar views. The LDS Church teaches that same-sex marriage is a “serious transgression” and does not perform or recognize such marriages within its doctrine.
2. Doctrinal or Ideological Basis
Both organizations ground their positions in religious or conservative Christian beliefs. Chick-fil-A’s leadership has cited Christian principles for its stances, while the LDS Church’s opposition is rooted in its doctrine, which teaches that sexual relations are only permissible within marriage between a man and a woman.
3. Claims of Respect and Inclusion
Both entities assert that they welcome LGBTQ individuals in some capacity. Chick-fil-A has stated that it serves everyone and shifted its charitable focus away from overtly anti-LGBTQ groups. The LDS Church states that those with same-sex attraction can fully participate if they abide by church standards (i.e., celibacy or heterosexual marriage) and emphasizes kindness and compassion.
4. Recent Moves Toward Moderation
Chick-fil-A has stopped donating to some of the most controversial groups and has made efforts to soften its public image. The LDS Church has also taken steps to be seen as more compassionate, such as supporting the Respect for Marriage Act (which protects same-sex marriages legally) while maintaining its doctrinal opposition, and rescinding some of its most restrictive policies (like the 2015 ban on baptisms for children of same-sex couples, which was reversed in 2019)
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I don't think individuals in either group would say that they personally dislike LGBTQ people though. At least that hasn't been my experience in the church and in my own family, and I would place my bet that most Chik-fil-A employees would have similar views.
I do think that there are some common 'macro' positions that run in tandem and are similar between the two groups as you see if you explore the A.I. link I've posted.
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Prompt: "Did Chick-fil-A become the favorite fast food joint in Utah once it was known that they held the same dislike of LGBTQ people as Mormons and were willing to express them in their discrimination policies?"
Regards,Yes. Though being closed on Sunday may also have contributed.
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No doubt.Morley wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:03 pmPrompt: "Did Chick-fil-A become the favorite fast food joint in Utah once it was known that they held the same dislike of LGBTQ people as Mormons and were willing to express them in their discrimination policies?"
Regards,Yes. Though being closed on Sunday may also have contributed.
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Interestingly, however, the new Lehi Family Park in Lehi, Utah is open on Sunday specifically to accommodate those that want to take their families to the park on Sunday.
https://www.lehi-ut.gov/recreation/parks/family-park/
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