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They really have someone in the film saying that the original plates were just a prop? Isn't that kind of like blowing a hole in the bottom of your ship just as you set sail?

Nothing they can show in the film can possibly be inconsistent with the plates having been a prop ... because the plates in the film are a prop. If it can be shown on film with a prop, it could have happened with a prop originally.

Isn't this going to occur to a lot of viewers?
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I'm a little confused. There's going to be a movie and an accompanying documentary. Are we clear on whether the trailer is just the movie?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:19 pm
I'm a little confused. There's going to be a movie and an accompanying documentary. Are we clear on whether the trailer is just the movie?
Good question, RI. I don’t know the answer.
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I felt bad reading that Witnesses Sic et Non column, where Dr. Peterson mentions that three more Interpreter Foundation donors have pulled out due to his non-support for the treasonous trainwreck known as Trump.

Perhaps these fair-weather LDS donors will be putting their money into California Proposition #666 which will repeal all democratic elections and award all future votes to Chancellor Trump.
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Moksha wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:29 am
I felt bad reading that Witnesses Sic et Non column, where Dr. Peterson mentions that three more Interpreter Foundation donors have pulled out due to his non-support for the treasonous trainwreck known as Trump.

Perhaps these fair-weather LDS donors will be putting their money into California Proposition #666 which will repeal all democratic elections and award all future votes to Chancellor Trump.
I feel badly about that too, and I am being completely sincere here. People who donate should do so because they see value in the project, and they presumably saw quality and promise in the project up to this point. Why they would let an ephemeral politician get in the way is beyond me.
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Professor Peterson was kind enough to contact me in order to set me straight on the nature of this "trailer." It is a kind of project overview that combines elements of the film and the documentary. The trailer that is being shown in Megaplex Theaters is professionally produced. We have no access to that at present, unless we can get to a Megaplex Theater.

When the time of the film's release draws nigh, the professionally produced trailer will be published online.

Both Ann Taves and John Butler are almost certainly going to be in the documentary, and, as many of you already know, neither is a member of the LDS Church.
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Physics Guy wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:59 pm
They really have someone in the film saying that the original plates were just a prop? Isn't that kind of like blowing a hole in the bottom of your ship just as you set sail?

Nothing they can show in the film can possibly be inconsistent with the plates having been a prop ... because the plates in the film are a prop. If it can be shown on film with a prop, it could have happened with a prop originally.

Isn't this going to occur to a lot of viewers?
That's a great point. I am sure some will make the connection regarding the film prop and Joseph Smith creating a prop that remained hidden from everyone to avoid exposure of the hoax.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:08 pm
Professor Peterson was kind enough to contact me in order to set me straight on the nature of this "trailer." It is a kind of project overview that combines elements of the film and the documentary. The trailer that is being shown in Megaplex Theaters is professionally produced. We have no access to that at present, unless we can get to a Megaplex Theater.

When the time of the film's release draws nigh, the professionally produced trailer will be published online.

Both Ann Taves and John Butler are almost certainly going to be in the documentary, and, as many of you already know, neither is a member of the LDS Church.
Thanks for passing that along, Kish. And thanks also to Peterson for clearing up my confusion.
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I'm not sharing the excitement.

I see Taves suggesting something more along the lines of "I think....there weren't actual plates that were hundreds or thousands of years old..."
I'm not seeing a reason for the plates as it pertains to the Book of Mormon story at all. Why are the plates seen as something that even needs to be considered?
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dastardly stem wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:59 pm
I'm not sharing the excitement.

I see Taves suggesting something more along the lines of "I think....there weren't actual plates that were hundreds or thousands of years old..."
I'm not seeing a reason for the plates as it pertains to the Book of Mormon story at all. Why are the plates seen as something that even needs to be considered?
I guess I am not following, stem. Would you mind expatiating on your question a bit?
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