Scott Gordon Attacks Tyler Livingston Over CES Letter

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

MG detests repentance.

- Doc

Not so. Repentance is an important/integral part of my life.

I would encourage others to do so.

Regards,
MG

So, you contradict yourself because?

[Marcus]

his comment about "staying" in the church hecause of "opportunity" to offend is incredibly telling.

Pray tell. Care to elucidate and tell me exactly what I’m thinking/saying?

Please quote my previous reply to you dealing with this matter IN FULL. No ellipses.

Yes, what I said is telling. But not in the way you’re trying to spin it.

Regards,
MG

Already done, the first time you asked:

Marcus, your ellipses and distortions of context are not worth my time trying to reconstruct and respond to either. I don’t want to waste my time (I have before) falling into your wordplay traps.

Your own words.

...Rather than staying in the church and trying to ‘cover up their sins’ some find it easier to simply leave. When we live in a community and don’t fit in with the norms we look for ways to either fit in or we look for other options...

You brought up those who stay to cover up sins. That is exactly the issue with today's LDS church and the abuse problem they have. You have (maybe inadvertently) hit upon a huge issue, and defined it exactly.

Your LDS church harbors and defends abusers.

[doubtingthomas]

The vast majority of people join the church just to be part of a community, there's nothing special about the church.

The church is what we should expect it to be if there's no God.

That of course is one way of looking at it.

Regards,MG

It's not hard to come up with other interpretations. Ask the flat earthers, it's very easy to defend nonsense.

Your LDS church harbors and defends abusers.

And radical feminism is contributing to the rise of childhood diabetes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2809958/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7201a4.htm

[Marcus]

[MG 2.0]

Pray tell. Care to elucidate and tell me exactly what I’m thinking/saying?

Please quote my previous reply to you dealing with this matter IN FULL. No ellipses.

Yes, what I said is telling. But not in the way you’re trying to spin it.

Regards,
MG

Already done, the first time you asked:

Your own words.

You brought up those who stay to cover up sins. That is exactly the issue with today's LDS church and the abuse problem they have. You have (maybe inadvertently) hit upon a huge issue, and defined it exactly.

Your LDS church harbors and defends abusers.

This is what I said:

They don’t stay with the PURPOSE of covering up their sins. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing that prey upon the weak and helpless. Covering their sins is a BYPRODUCT of the fact that they are abusers and self loathers looking for innocent victims.

THAT is their object and design.

They stay because this gives them opportunity to satisfy their evil designs. Sure, they end up trying to cover up their sins…but that’s not the PURPOSE for why they stay.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

That’s funny. I might say the same of you.

And I have, just not in those words.

Regards,
MG

[Shulem]

That’s funny. I might say the same of you.

And I have, just not in those words.

Regards,
MG

MG,

JUST STOP! You said you weren't going to further engage with certain people and here you are going around and around.

STOP!

The Rank: Charlatan seems appropriate.

[MG 2.0]

You said you weren't going to further engage with certain people and here you are going around and around.

I did say this:

Marcus, your ellipses and distortions of context are not worth my time trying to reconstruct and respond to either. I don’t want to waste my time (I have before) falling into your wordplay traps.

This doesn’t say that I will not engage without exception. If I feel like I’m not wasting my time I may choose to engage.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

The Rank: Charlatan seems appropriate.

It’s not. A moderator let me know they are in the process of fixing the problem.

By the way, in a similar fashion to my recent response to Marcus, I could also ascribe “Charlatan” to certain folks here and I truly believe I’d be in the right in doing so. Would I actually do that?

Of course not.

Think about it. Someone OTHER than me made that change. They took the low road.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I just want it noted that Mormon men ****ing kids, and being systemically aided and abetted by the Mormon church isn’t a good enough reason to leave the Mormon church according to MG.

- Doc