Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:53 pm
Your point read to me as if you we're addressing MG primarily, would MG vote Trump on Hanson's recommendation -- well obviously YES, he didn't need Hanson's recommendation.
I hadn't and haven't watched Hansen's video on Trump. I'm not interested in his political beliefs. As I've said, I do think that his voice is one more in the mix of current apologetics which has supplanted or taken the place of old apologetics. People, on the whole, aren't coming here for information, they're going to YouTube.

I posted his link here on the assumption that there are lurkers on this board that are looking around for more information to add to their own 'data bank' as they are investigating the truth claims of Mormonism. I am NOT assuming his website or video episodes are going to bowl over anyone who normally makes themselves known here and regularly and predictably takes pot shots at apologists. Of course he's not going to get everything right. But he does create a good deal of conversation and thought out there.

THAT is what is important.

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG,

I had a striking thought when reading the thread title. Is it no longer the case that the Book of Mormon is a translation of ancient scripture?

“Divinely inspired” seems to imply the book was a work of fiction that has elements of divinity in it, rather than what the book and Joseph claims it to be.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:08 am
[Our] questions just aren’t interesting enough for him to bother with.
Some aren't. Some are.

I'm not much into discussing that which in one place or another has already been discussed ad nauseam. Unless I can see there is a new and interesting twist.

As I said earlier, however, I don't find many of the arguments made by those that take a position of 'no God' to be of interest. I am at times relieved to find that there are posters that are believers and now and then they have things to say that I find interesting.

You are right in saying that there isn't much of a place here for believers. When two camps are starting from a different place there's not too many places to go. I figure there are some folks hanging around in the background that are still open to God belief and are looking for various points of view that might add to their own stash of information or thought as they are on their own journey of faith.

The vocal majority, by in large, are the secular humanists that don't believe in God. And yes, we sort of just talk past each other. But there are other folks out there listening in. They can look at conversations knowing that there are going to be different voices. And that's fine. This board is for everyone, believers and disbelievers, although the numbers are seemingly skewed in the direction of non.

Yeah, I have the balls to come in here and move through the flak and innuendo to try and get my views out there. Afterall, as members we're asked to go online and express our reasons for belief to others. We know that there will be a lot of push back from those that no longer believe and in some ways are on the defensive.

I've said it before but I'll say it again...I find it extremely interesting that those that have left Mormonism in the rear view mirror are so committed over the long haul to staying connected in their own way to the church rather than simply moving on.

Something is still tugging at them.

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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drumdude wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:24 pm
MG,

I had a striking thought when reading the thread title. Is it no longer the case that the Book of Mormon is a translation of ancient scripture?

“Divinely inspired” seems to imply the book was a work of fiction that has elements of divinity in it, rather than what the book and Joseph claims it to be.
I look at it as being divinely inspired in the sense that 'God is behind it'. That it was translated by "the gift and power of God".

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There are 27 guests at this very moment. They are reading. They are thinking. They are interested. They are seeking truth.

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:27 pm
...as members we're asked to go online and express our reasons for belief to others...
Oh. Is this a calling for you, then? Or is it a senior mission?
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:33 pm
There are 27 guests at this very moment. They are reading. They are thinking. They are interested. They are seeking truth.

Regards,
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How do you know what they are doing and what they’re motivations are?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:54 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:33 pm
There are 27 guests at this very moment. They are reading. They are thinking. They are interested. They are seeking truth.

Regards,
MG
How do you know what they are doing and what they’re motivations are?
Most of them are likely bots indexing the content here.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Marcus wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:44 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:27 pm
...as members we're asked to go online and express our reasons for belief to others...
Oh. Is this a calling for you, then? Or is it a senior mission?
Interestingly, the one thing MG 2.0 hasn’t done on this thread is express his reasoning behind finding Hansen’s view on the Book of Mormon compelling. Has he listed any of Hansen’s points and explained why they resonate with him? Nope. He’s big on grand statements about how important he is, but the reasoning is missing. It’s always missing. He’s specifically and consistently avoiding doing the exact thing he says he’s here to do.
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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drumdude wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:57 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:54 pm
How do you know what they are doing and what they’re motivations are?
Most of them are likely bots indexing the content here.
Of course they are. But that doesn’t fit with MG 2.0’s grand opinion of himself.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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