Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

[Marcus]

Your point read to me as if you we're addressing MG primarily, would MG vote Trump on Hanson's recommendation -- well obviously YES, he didn't need Hanson's recommendation.

I hadn't and haven't watched Hansen's video on Trump.

He has a video on Trump?

[Everybody Wang Chung]

I hadn't and haven't watched Hansen's video on Trump.

He has a video on Trump?

Unfortunately, he has two Trump videos where he pleads with Mormons to overlook any human flaws Trump may have and look at the big picture. Jacob believes the Bible/Book of Mormon clearly mandate that everyone should vote for Trump and the principles he stands for. *sigh*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcT_3-hM1QE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53SJtycnAok

[MG 2.0]

Oh. Is this a calling for you, then? Or is it a senior mission?

Interestingly, the one thing MG 2.0 hasn’t done on this thread is express his reasoning finding Hansen’s view on the Book of Mormon compelling. Has he listed any of Hansen’s points and explained why they resonate with him? Nope. He’s big on grand statements about how important he is, but the reasoning is missing. It’s always missing.

That's not true all the time and in all cases. Your statement is known as a blanket statement. Easy to do. Covers lots of bases without actually doing so.

Hansen's videos in most respects don't cover any new territory. They're for a new audience. Not for you. You already know all this stuff...or I'm assuming you do. I can go back and simply rehash what he says but you and I both know what he is saying in regards to "Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?"

What I find uninteresting is going back and taking the time to rehash what is already there. My point in beginning this thread was simply to create a link to a source that those that are investigating the church or those of a younger generation that might end up here might go to get information and as I said, add it to their data bank.

I find it amusing that this seems to be a big deal to non believers. More information is always better than less, right? And each person is responsible for themselves as they investigate the story of Mormonism.

I'm frequently asked why I find one thing or another "compelling". In my writing over a period of time I've done that. To be asked repeatedly to do the same, again and again, and then feeling 'compelled' to answer that same question is not something that I find necessary or as I said, interesting.

You already KNOW what believers find compelling about their beliefs. Why ask...as though it's the first time?

I think that my purpose has already been achieved. I'm guessing that more than a few have linked to 'Thoughtful Faith' and have found it of interest.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-3WFO ... X_1W3NjqAQ

Mission accomplished.

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

More information is always better than less, right?

If I make a video for young teens explaining to them that they have a very low chance of catching an STD from unprotected sex, that is more information. Is it better than less information?

The quality and nature of information actually matters, and I think that’s what we have an issue with here. Just as you would have an issue with certain sex education videos.

We disagree about Jacob’s intentions, his quality of work, and his goals. We don’t disagree with you posting “information.”

[I Have Questions]

More information is always better than less, right?

That’s certainly not reflective of the Church’s position.

“There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful.” Elder Packer

[Marcus]

...as members we're asked to go online and express our reasons for belief to others...

Oh. Is this a calling for you, then? Or is it a senior mission?

...I think that my purpose has already been achieved. I'm guessing that more than a few have linked to 'Thoughtful Faith' and have found it of interest.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-3WOCWkUFQcX_1W3NjqAQ

Mission accomplished...

Lol. So, that IS why you post here. in my opinion, you are doing more damage than good for your religion, given that you seem pathologically incapable of actually expressing an opinion due to how illogical your postings are, but sure, keep posting.

[MG 2.0]

That’s certainly not reflective of the Church’s position.

“There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful.” Elder Packer

Some General Authorities have been more forthcoming than others for one reason or another. No argument there. Tad Callister is one of those that took the time to research the arguments of the critics against the Book of Mormon. From Jacob Hansen’s site we have this:

https://youtu.be/n7GAjpp-5Io?si=3IVsxMX2hIL4g71T

This presentation deals with the topic of this thread and goes into some detail in describing the arguments and counter arguments that bring us up to date where the Book of Mormon is concerned. Anyone that has not listened to or heard Elder Callister bear his witness of the Book of Mormon would do well to take the time to do so. Realizing that the ‘regulars’ here will more than likely NOT do so I recommend it to others that are perusing this board and this thread.

It’s not a waste of your time as some here might try and convince you that it is.

Best wishes.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

We disagree about Jacob’s intentions…

What do you think his intentions are? Are you saying that his intentions are bad? What are you saying?

Honestly, I haven’t spent the time watching every video that he has put out there. Those that I have watched seem to have the intent of leading people to Christ and His church. Do you see that as a problem?

If so, that might be why you see his intentions as being bad. The thing is, for people of faith or those that are seeking, his intentions might be seen through a different lens. We’ve discussed this over and over again. Perception and point of view have a tremendous influence on what we see and what we hear.

And our views towards ‘intentions’.

Some fellow who goes by NEMO (no, I have not seen any of his videos) on another thread…are his intentions more praiseworthy/trustworthy in your eyes than those of Jacob Hansen?

If so, why? If not, why?

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

We disagree about Jacob’s intentions…

What do you think his intentions are? Are you saying that his intentions are bad? What are you saying?

Honestly, I haven’t spent the time watching every video that he has put out there. Those that I have watched seem to have the intent of leading people to Christ and His church. Do you see that as a problem?

If so, that might be why you see his intentions as being bad. The thing is, for people of faith or those that are seeking, his intentions might be seen through a different lens. We’ve discussed this over and over again. Perception and point of view have a tremendous influence on what we see and what we hear.

And our views towards ‘intentions’.

Some fellow who goes by NEMO (no, I have not seen any of his videos) on another thread…are his intentions more praiseworthy/trustworthy in your eyes than those of Jacob Hansen?

If so, why? If not, why?

Regards,
MG

I think we probably have similar views about Jacob and NEMO. I’ve seen a lot of Mormons who are skeptical that Nemo was acting as a Mormon in good faith. I have the same doubts about Jacob providing good information.

You go off your hunch. I don’t doubt Nemo probably had alternate intentions.

[Marcus]

We disagree about Jacob’s intentions…

What do you think his intentions are? Are you saying that his intentions are bad? What are you saying?

Honestly, I haven’t spent the time watching every video that he has put out there. Those that I have watched seem to have the intent of leading people to Christ and His church. Do you see that as a problem?

If so, that might be why you see his intentions as being bad. The thing is, for people of faith or those that are seeking, his intentions might be seen through a different lens. We’ve discussed this over and over again. Perception and point of view have a tremendous influence on what we see and what we hear.

And our views towards ‘intentions’.

Some fellow who goes by NEMO (no, I have not seen any of his videos) on another thread…are his intentions more praiseworthy/trustworthy in your eyes than those of Jacob Hansen?

If so, why? If not, why?

Regards,
MG

You truncated drumdude's post, which completely changed the meaning.

...We disagree about Jacob’s intentions, his quality of work, and his goals. We don’t disagree with you posting “information.”

My bolding added.

The issue in this thread, for me, has been his quality of work, which is not good.