John, release your finances

[_Rosebud]

Oh, is Chris Shelton the ex-Scientologist? I didn’t listen to anything besides the last 7 minutes because that’s all that was pertinent. I believe you, Kish, are the one who likes the MS podcast experience.

[_cwald]

[_Lemmie]

....That said, it would be a lot nicer for me if I could do this Dehlin job without all the Dehlin fans insulting me. Why do you think so few people stand up to him? If the stuff I’m saying is really true (and it is), there are a lot of angry hurt people (and there are). Of all the people who don’t deserve the insults regarding him, it’s me. I don’t deserve any of this crap. I put up with it because it’s not worth taking too seriously, but I don’t really get why people post in these threads. All of this is old.

Let me do this crappy job.

Well that's a load of BS. The "job" you're doing is accusing someone without providing any proof, just creepy innuendo. There is nothing honorable in that. And when I comment on your distasteful behavior, I am not defending dehlin. I have no interest in him and I think the term "exmo leadership" is nonsense.

I post in objection to your method here because your creepy behavior makes exmormon, professional women look bad. I know kish doesn't like my plagiarism thread, and I respect that, but I appreciate his acknowledgement that I do what I do openly and honestly there, never making a statement I don't fully support.that's how you do a task, rosebud, not the way you are approaching it.

There are enough challenges for professional women, let alone exmormon ones; putting up with the bad image you project for us doesn't need to be a part of it.

[_Kishkumen]

Oh, is Chris Shelton the ex-Scientologist? I didn’t listen to anything besides the last 7 minutes because that’s all that was pertinent. I believe you, Kish, are the one who likes the MS podcast experience.

What a creep. You aren’t even interested in the facts. Maksutov has you pegged. You are a blatantly vicious, vindictive liar.

[_Kishkumen]

I think the term "exmo leadership" is nonsense.

Amen!

I appreciate his acknowledgement that I do what I do openly and honestly there, never making a statement I don't fully support.that's how you do a task, rosebud . . . .

Damn straight! If you are making serious accusations, you had better bring the evidence. The spiritual/intellectual core of MDB is open discussion using arguments supported by evidence.

We criticize(d) the LDS Church for stifling open discussion, suppressing evidence, and threatening people. We don’t seek to emulate the Church’s worst aspects.

[_huckelberry]

Andy Warhols screen test of a young Bob Dylan? Well there is at least substance in that fragment.

[_Lemmie]

In general, the person using the intimidation is the person who has power to intimidate. Up to this point, that’s been John.

Why do you still allow Dehlin the power to intimidate you?

[_moksha]

And I get accused of using "intimidation tactics", on a baby message board?

I'll have you know that this is a fully certified defamation board. Nothing "baby" about it. Of course, like all fully certified defamation boards, this one allows participants to call you on any Faustian bargains you may have struck with the SCMC to get back at John.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I'm pretty sure that Arizona was the location of the Open Stories Conference wherein John became aware that wife-swapping had taken place and then ceased having or hosting such conferences.

Wait, what? Is this really a thing?

- Doc