GIMR wrote:Don't single me out because of him.
Could we single you out because you're cute?
Mister Scratch wrote:Ray A wrote:Mister Scratch wrote:
The big question is: Why were you so upset over it in the first place?
Because at the time I had the same apostate spirit you now have.
Come on, Ray---I have already demonstrated that this is a baloney answer. If I were to follow up by asking, "Gee, Ray, how did you get rid of this so-called "apostate spirit"?" I would already know the answer. You admitted, in the thread "The Many Faces of Ray A," that your "shuffling off" of this "spirit" was a result of A) your daughter getting called a "crack whore" by someone on RfM, and B) DCP kissing your butt, or "stroking your ego"---a phrase which got to you so much that you went on and on using it in post after post.
Sorry, mate, but your "apostate spirit" retort doesn't cut it.
Ray A wrote:Mind reading again? Attributing to me motives I never held. That's your trademark, Scratch. So you are saying I changed my position because my daughter was maligned, and some "buttkissing". You are just a pathetic human being. I challenge you, first of all, to go through every post I did on FAIR/MAD and tell me if you can find ONE reference to the remark made about my daughter. Surely, it would have surfaced, would it not?
Let me, again, correct your devious insinuations and "conclusions", which have already been explained, but you are just too slow to comprehend.
1) My daughter was not called a "crack whore" on RFM. I have repeatedly said this occurred on Exmo-Social. Do you finally "get it"? I have said this at least half-dozen times yet it has eluded you. The great "investigator". I am amazed that though I clarified this many times, you still get it wrong.
2) To "conclude" that my change of heart towards the Church was because of this incident is malicious mind-reading.
I have, again, already explained that it was my positive experience on FAIR which was the catalyst for this change,
not some malicious remark about my daughter. The very first time I mentioned this incident was on Shades' old MDB, never on FAIR, and the context of that remark was in a reply to Kevin Graham. It was no hobby horse of mine, like your vindictive campaign against MAD, which you admitted!
3) Do I have to go through this again? I had changed long before DCP and I resumed communication! Do you understand, Scatch? He would not have resumed communication with me had he felt I was still antagonistic to him or the Church. So it was NOTHING he said which changed me. Are you so THICK that you can't understand something so simple?
Mister Scratch wrote:In other words, the butt-kissing. Boy, I just hate being right!
Mister Scratch wrote:Actually, I don't think it was "long" before you "resumed communication". You haven't been on this insane tirade for all that long, after all.
I had changed long before DCP and I resumed communication! Do you understand, Scatch? He would not have resumed communication with me had he felt I was still antagonistic to him or the Church. So it was NOTHING he said which changed me. Are you so THICK that you can't understand something so simple?
Daniel Peterson wrote:Actually, just so you'll know, I get along perfectly fine with various critics of the Church.
On the evangelical side, feel free to ask Dennis Wright (formerly of Utah Missions, Inc.), or Richard Abanes, or several others if, in our personal relations, I've ever treated them rudely or with contempt.
On the secularist side, ask, say, Dan Vogel whether I've ever been uncivil to him on any occasion when we've met or spoken together. (Just, please, don't ask Shades. I still have to get a book back to him that he kindly loaned me a long, long time ago. Somehow, during a house cleaning, it got boxed up. It's still in the house, but I need to find it. I'm embarrassed, and, if he's angry with me, he has just cause.)