Congratulations DCP

[_beastie]

This is choice. So you think my warnings are balderdash? You want to protect yourself, yet you stand by and watch Mormons get verbally slaughtered. "It's 'only' the Internet." "They are 'only' venting." You are afraid of violence against you, yet you think all the verbal attacks on Mormons "can never lead to violence". That is what I would have to call breath-taking hypocrisy.

You can't be serious.

No, Ray, this isn't hypocrisy. I would never encourage Mormons to post under their real names, either, for the same reasons I won't.

You're really reaching.

But tell me, do the attacks on exmormons by people like you portend future violence against us, as well?

[_Ray A]

This is your best example? This is the bile that will incite some future holocaust? You do realize that this individual was not calling Mormons sociopaths, but was stating that if he/she were to argue with Mormons, he/she would have to do that which "make me want to claw my own eyes out" - ie, read their scripture. Certainly he/she engaged in hyperbole by comparing his/her distaste for Mormon scripture to a distaste for reading a book about how to torture a kitten, but if this is an example of the "bile" you think will incite the holocaust, your perception is even more skewed than I had ever suspected.

I fully realise what the poster was alluding to. The part I didn't quote was where he acknowledged it was "ugly", yet they still post it. The allusion is that Mormons are like sociopaths.

[_beastie]

I fully realise what the poster was alluding to. The part I didn't quote was where he acknowledged it was "ugly", yet they still post it. The allusion is that Mormons are like sociopaths.

When you are dependent upon perceived allusions, which reasonable people could disagree upon, to make your case, your case is extremely weak.

So, tell me, are the many insinuations - or open statements - that exmormons are inspired of Satan just as problematic?

[_Ray A]

I would never encourage Mormons to post under their real names, either, for the same reasons I won't.

Well the fact is that many of them do. And they don't receive any protection. I have never even alluded that Benson or Bachman are sociopaths.

But tell me, do the attacks on exmormons by people like you portend future violence against us, as well?

How come you're so sensitive to being called a "bitch"? How do you think people like DCP, Hamblin, and "the Mopologists" feel when they are under direct attack, using their real names, by people using pseudonyms? Isn't that stalking?

[_Ray A]

So, tell me, are the many insinuations - or open statements - that exmormons are inspired of Satan just as problematic?

Here we go around the merry-go-round again. I suppose Jesus had a real problem, telling people "you are of your father, the devil". No wonder they killed him.

I have domestic work to do. I've spent enough time here this morning.

[_beastie]

Well the fact is that many of them do. And they don't receive any protection. I have never even alluded that Benson or Bachman are sociopaths.

So what? What does the fact that some Mormons - like some exmormons - post under their real names have to do with my supposed hypocrisy? I don't advise ANYONE to post under their real name, although it probably doesn't matter much for people who have a lot of material on the net anyway under their real name.

And I have never argued that certain individuals wouldn't be justified in fearing stalking or even violence from certain other individuals. I have felt that myself, and was always relieved I didn't use my real name for that reason. What I have argued against is your insistence that these statements are going to result in some sort of social "revolution" which would sanction mass acts of violence against Mormons. That, Ray, is one of the silliest ideas I have ever read on any of these boards. Aside from being silly, it's evidence of your hypocrisy, because malicious statements are also made against exmormons, and that has never seem to bother you even the tiniest bit.

How come you're so sensitive to being called a "bitch"? How do you think people like DCP, Hamblin, and "the Mopologists" feel when they are under direct attack, using their real names, by people using pseudonyms? Isn't that stalking?

I have never defended bad behavior or calling people names. I don't like being called names or being attacked, and I know Mormons don't, either. And yes, some behavior, on both sides, is stalkish.

I have argued against one issue - your pet peeve that this behavior is going to incite future acts of mass violence against Mormons, resulting in a need for them to have special protection.

Your replies, so far, have been attempts to divert from this point, which I have repeatedly made clear. In fact, I've made it clear every time the topic has come up.

[_beastie]

Here we go around the merry-go-round again. I suppose Jesus had a real problem, telling people "you are of your father, the devil". No wonder they killed him.

And there you have it.

When exmormons call names, it's horrible, it's behavior that is comparable to the anti-semitism that resulted in the holocaust. When YOU do it, you're just following Jesus' example.

You are not only a hypocrite, you're a FLAMING hypocrite.

I'm not surprised you're more comfortable at MAD, where this sort of hypocrisy is sanctioned by moderators.

[_Ray A]

I'll leave the last word to a woman who can even out talk an echo.

Cheers.

[_dartagnan]

Ray, I asked you a question. What truths did Hitler speak?

[_Daniel Peterson]

I'll leave the last word to a woman who can even out talk an echo.

I like that.

That's been my experience, too.