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Re: Loan shifting the anachronisms away

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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:47 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:45 pm
I've had communication with a moderator. I think we're good.

Sure hope so anyway. ;)

You are clogging up these threads with your bellyaching, IHQ.

Get on topic, will ya' ?

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Then said moderator can come on here and explain why the board rule about linking and running now no longer applies.
Bumping for the moderator that MG claims has agreed that what he was doing was okay, to come and explain themselves.

Note: I strongly suspect that MG has misrepresented the exchange with a moderator, if indeed it actually happened.
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 11:13 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:51 pm
So you admit you missed off the prompt...
Technically, yes I did.
You keep repeating poor behaviour. Do you have a reasonable explanation for why?
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Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Loan shifting the anachronisms away

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drumdude wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 4:09 am
I think all of us would find the A.I. stuff less tiresome if it was simply translated into your own voice.

That one small step ensures that we aren’t arguing with a 3rd party, and that you’ve actually read what the A.I. spit out enough to have a discussion about it.

In other words, use A.I. privately as a tool for research and then put it in your own words here.
No, not even that. Not even that is good enough. A.I. can be used to gather raw facts, but ALL synthesis and analysis must come from the mind of the poster.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 8:59 am
A.I. can be used to gather raw facts, but ALL synthesis and analysis must come from the mind of the poster.
I used to feel this way when fellow LDS posters would quote walls of extremely tangential scriptures and pretend it had some relevance to the discussion at hand.
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https://ldsbot.com/ wrote:The Liahona is a fascinating artifact from the Book of Mormon, described as a compass-like device given by the Lord to Lehi and his family to guide them through the wilderness. It worked according to their faith and diligence, rather than through any scientific or mathematical principles like Base38 or Base62 conversions.

While the Liahona is a spiritual tool, your mention of ASKAP J1832 and time intervals seems to be more in the realm of astronomy and mathematics. If you're interested in how faith and divine guidance are depicted in the Book of Mormon through the Liahona, I'd be happy to explore that with you!
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Re: Loan shifting the anachronisms away

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 8:52 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:47 pm
Then said moderator can come on here and explain why the board rule about linking and running now no longer applies.
Bumping for the moderator that MG claims has agreed that what he was doing was okay, to come and explain themselves.

Note: I strongly suspect that MG has misrepresented the exchange with a moderator, if indeed it actually happened.
The exchange is accurate. I would just as well let it go at this point without putting someone else in the hot seat or causing any discomfort for them.

They were going on their best judgement at the time with the information they had. Shades runs the board. He knows best, of course.

Thanks,
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Re: Loan shifting the anachronisms away

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:56 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 8:52 am
Bumping for the moderator that MG claims has agreed that what he was doing was okay, to come and explain themselves.

Note: I strongly suspect that MG has misrepresented the exchange with a moderator, if indeed it actually happened.
The exchange is accurate. I would just as well let it go at this point without putting someone else in the hot seat or causing any discomfort for them.

They were going on their best judgement at the time with the information they had. Shades runs the board. He knows best, of course.

Thanks,
MG
If Shades confirms on behalf of the mystery moderator that the exchange took place as you described it, then I’ll drop it. But I won’t be taking your word for anything, ever. You’ve earned my distrust.
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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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https://ldsbot.com/ wrote:The Liahona … worked according to their faith and diligence, rather than through any scientific or mathematical principles like Base38 or Base62 conversions.
Good thing LDSbot cleared that up for us, or I’d have been thinking the Liahona must have worked, like so many important devices, on Base38 or Base62 conversions.

I mean, the power of those two Base conversions is incredible. Base17 conversions are okay, but none of the other Base conversions even comes close, if you want a compass-like device. So unless you really think that you can go the faith-and-diligence route, which apparently also works, I’d seriously recommend the Base38 conversion. Base62 conversion would also work great, obviously, but it’s going to be bulky for a hand-held device, what with 62 being that much bigger than 38, and probably more power than you’ll need most of the time. So yeah, I’d say Base38 conversion for the portable model, and maybe put the Base62 conversion in the base station unit, you know?
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Physics Guy wrote:
Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:32 am
https://ldsbot.com/ wrote:The Liahona … worked according to their faith and diligence, rather than through any scientific or mathematical principles like Base38 or Base62 conversions.
Good thing LDSbot cleared that up for us, or I’d have been thinking the Liahona must have worked, like so many important devices, on Base38 or Base62 conversions.

I mean, the power of those two Base conversions is incredible. Base17 conversions are okay, but none of the other Base conversions even comes close, if you want a compass-like device. So unless you really think that you can go the faith-and-diligence route, which apparently also works, I’d seriously recommend the Base38 conversion. Base62 conversion would also work great, obviously, but it’s going to be bulky for a hand-held device, what with 62 being that much bigger than 38, and probably more power than you’ll need most of the time. So yeah, I’d say Base38 conversion for the portable model, and maybe put the Base62 conversion in the base station unit, you know?

The base 62 compasses were of course based on Babylonian base 60 mathematics but because the Lord said that the Babylonians were basically the devil they needed to add two to not be like them, it had the added benefit of being slightly more powerful than the compasses of their former oppressors.
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Re: Loan shifting the anachronisms away

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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:15 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:56 am
The exchange is accurate. I would just as well let it go at this point without putting someone else in the hot seat or causing any discomfort for them.

They were going on their best judgement at the time with the information they had. Shades runs the board. He knows best, of course.

Thanks,
MG
If Shades confirms on behalf of the mystery moderator that the exchange took place as you described it, then I’ll drop it. But I won’t be taking your word for anything, ever. You’ve earned my distrust.
Be that as it may, I've stated things as they are. You have chosen to disbelieve and mistrust. You have also made this choice in regards to your belief in the truth claims of the church.

We all have that agency/choice to disbelieve and not trust others.

I don't fault you at all for that.

I also find it very difficult to trust you as a result of your failure to answer so many questions I have thrown your way. You seem to have an arrogant streak about you that allows you to ask questions of others without any compunction to do the same.

In my book that shows lack of humility and vulnerability.

Regards,
MG
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