New Faith-Based Threads Rule = Mormon NON-Discussions Board

[_Scottie]

So, what does everyone think?

I think it's f-ing BRILLIANT!!! ;)

[_KimberlyAnn]

I simply ask people to evaluate the sticky in context, skippy.

I did.

[_Dr. Shades]

I think it's f-ing BRILLIANT!!! ;)

Thanks, but which part? :-)

[_Nightingale]

[MODERATOR NOTE: I need to clear up a few misconceptions:

• This move was NOT made in order to attract TBMs. I'm not in the business of attracting one type of poster over another. I want to attract EVERYBODY, be they TBM, critic, nevermo, etc. TBM PARTICIPATION (or lack thereof) HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

I just want to be clear that my comments expressed above were not intended to indicate that I thought this faith-flag thing was a deliberate move to intentionally attract more Mormon posters. I was trying to say that within the overall stated purpose of this board it seems clear that some equilibrium has to be reached in order to get and keep "EVERYBODY", which is the stated goal (well, some people in each named category, not literally everybody, of course). Trying to create space/s for each general type and/or purpose makes a lot of sense. It seems that some people would be more comfortable with some of the listed types not being welcomed or at least not "catered" to. But if some accommodation isn't made then some won't be likely to participate. That's fine but then you don't get the board you're aiming for.

But of course some sense of rationality needs to be kept. There are, for instance, no limits to how many "flags" people could insist on needing. What if some of you don't wanna talk to RfMers? Or Mormons don't wanna talk to ex-members who have been to the temple? And Christians don't wanna talk to atheists and the agnostics don't know what they want [Jenn Kamp] 'n like that? Now THAT would just get silly!

Perhaps if this move was viewed as a way to help the mods have less work to do rather than a way to cater to "the other side" then people could feel more cooperative about it? (Gotta keep the mods happy!)

And it's worth remembering that it is a temporary test run, not the 11th commandment. So all this analysis and dissection and it could all blow over tomorrow.

However, it's worth noting, I think, that any time someone speaks up for any potential threat to freedom of speech and expression that is worth attention and discussion.

Maybe I could take this opportunity to say that the red ink is so RED. And it reminds me of the MAD mods. Is there any reason MDB mods talk in red? Is it a rule of the mod universe or could it be blue or green or at least a paler red?

Or is that getting just too picky? :)

[_Jersey Girl]

I think it's f-ing BRILLIANT!!! ;)

Thanks, but which part? :-)

I think there needs to be a stipulation in the sticky that this is on a trial basis, say, for one month from the date of the sticky. After a month, we re-evaluate.

[Guest]

I should mention that I do actually understand (and agree in some cases) that some exmos don't want Mormon-talk going on. With no offence intended to LDS posters, I can really relate to that. When I first left the church and then eventually ended up reading and posting at RfM (I don't find it a "cesspool", unlike some Mormons and other exmos do) I could not stand to read scriptures. It literally made me feel ill. (Overdosed and traumatized and not needing any more of it). There was a great discussion at the time (between beastie and Ray A, interestingly) that had Ray posting long passages of Mormon scripture as they were discussing the inspiration or otherwise of the Book of Mormon. I had to skip all that or at least some of the posts as I was taking a needed break from that (reasons don't matter here). I would always support an exmo who doesn't want to be involved in the thing that hurt them and which they left. It is always going to be a tricky thing to have LDS and ex-LDS posters trying to peacefully co-exist when "discussion" is the main activity.

The simplest solution of all seems to be what I initially expected, which was that LDS posters would only use the Celestial forum and non-LDS, especially ex-members, would rarely go there, if at all, if they wanted to avoid LDS.

But it doesn't go like that.

Life is always throwing up curve balls!

[_KimberlyAnn]

Maybe I could take this opportunity to say that the red ink is so RED. And it reminds me of the MAD mods. Is there any reason MDB mods talk in red? Is it a rule of the mod universe or could it be blue or green or at least a paler red?

Or is that getting just too picky? :)

It may be picky, but I don't care for the red ink, either. It almost hurts my eyes!

KA

[_Jersey Girl]

I should mention that I do actually understand (and agree in some cases) that some exmos don't want Mormon-talk going on. With no offence intended to LDS posters, I can really relate to that. When I first left the church and then eventually ended up reading and posting at RfM (I don't find it a "cesspool", unlike some Mormons and other exmos do) I could not stand to read scriptures. It literally made me feel ill. (Overdosed and traumatized and not needing any more of it). There was a great discussion at the time (between beastie and Ray A, interestingly) that had Ray posting long passages of Mormon scripture as they were discussing the inspiration or otherwise of the Book of Mormon. I had to skip all that or at least some of the posts as I was taking a needed break from that (reasons don't matter here). I would always support an exmo who doesn't want to be involved in the thing that hurt them and which they left. It is always going to be a tricky thing to have LDS and ex-LDS posters trying to peacefully co-exist when "discussion" is the main activity.

The simplest solution of all seems to be what I initially expected, which was that LDS posters would only use the Celestial forum and non-LDS, especially ex-members, would rarely go there, if at all, if they wanted to avoid LDS.

But it doesn't go like that.

Life is always throwing up curve balls!

Nightingale,

I think it's two sides of the same derailment coin. In the case of RFM, of course they don't want believers in there giving testimony or "spouting" scripture or on this board when believer's wish to discuss points of doctrine or religious history, there are certain topics where the "existence of God" is a given between believer's and challenging the OP based on the "existence of God" derails the thread from it's intended purpose.

Likewise, as I stated previously on this thread, suppose Atheists wish to discuss the development of their own moral thinking and don't want believer's disrupting threads by posting scripture ref's for the 10 commandments. Or suppose Athiests (I wouldn't necessarily want to limit this to Atheists because it's a topic I enjoy discussing and learning about) wanted to discuss the issue of Gay Domestic Partnership or the health issues regarding HIV/AIDS, they might not want to have the discussion disrupted by believer's posting excerpts from Leviticus. Before you know it, the thread would derail to a discussion of the cultural/religious foundations of Leviticus and drive the topic away from what the thread starter had intended the topic to be.

Was that clear as mud? I think I rambled that out a bit!

[_dartagnan]

Calm down. Nobody but Dart is advocating this.

Kimberly and Skippy are freaking out in hyperbole mode. I didn't advocate any of that nonsense. But it should be taken for granted that some people have no business being in the celestial. Polygamy Porter and mercury come to mind. I know this will never be implemented, I was just commenting on a remark by marg about restrictions that she would support.

[_skippy the dead]

Calm down. Nobody but Dart is advocating this.

Kimberly and Skippy are freaking out in hyperbole mode.

We weren't freaking out. I, for one, was mocking you.