Little girl has her mic turned off during F&T meeting

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Re: Little girl has her mic turned off during F&T meeting

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One of the things that just kills me about this thread being moved is the idea that out there somewhere an LGBTQ youth, or even Savannah herself, or a possibly a parent of an LGBTQ child could be looking in here to see what kind of treatment the issue is having and pick up on respectful and varying views right up until they get to WD's filthy remarks and see the underbelly of a society that really doesn't give a crap about them.

It seriously sort of stabs at my heart.
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Re: Little girl has her mic turned off during F&T meeting

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't disagree with this move. I do wish you had the time to devote to pruning out certain remarks, but I understand why that's difficult.

To clarify, it would be easy to prune out just the Telestial comments, but the attendant job of pruning out the quotes thereof and replies thereunto would be exponentially more difficult.


I see. Just check your PM's as you have time.
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Re: Coming out in F&T meeting

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I'm interested in the claim that there was a disruptive group present during the F&T meeting. Who is lying? What would be the motivation for either party to lie about a group of people either being there or not being present.

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Re: Little girl has her mic turned off during F&T meeting

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I disagree with the move. It'll kill the discussion and this is a discussion board that's already suffering from a loss of contributors. This move doesn't help develop interest in the forum.

- Doc


What would you suggest with regard to Water Dog's inappropriate remarks?


I'd leave them so people can see what a Mormon is all about.

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Re: Heather's Story validates November Policy

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Water Dog wrote:It is my opinion, based on my interpretation of all the data, that this whole thing was staged by the mother. The mother, Heather, is a crazy exmormon [homosexual] zealot/activist that talked her daughter Savannah, who is only 12, into being "gay."

Why do you think she is of homosexual orientation? The evidence (married and has a child) indicates the exact opposite.

Heather then authored a coming-out script that she further pressured Savannah into reading over the pulpit at a LDS church, which she despises, while sitting in the back and recording the whole thing.

Are you sure? According to what I read, it was Savannah's idea and Heather simply edited it for clarity and/or readability.
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Re: Little girl has her mic turned off during F&T meeting

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Meadowchik wrote:
So this story is truth of the truest kind. And look at Savannah's face! Pure sweetness!

Truth will out.


I hope so. The thought of LGBTQ youth engaging in self harm or choosing suicide on account of the reception they get at the hands of this society and god forbid, in their own church home just kills me.
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Re: Little girl has her mic turned off during F&T meeting

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Jersey Girl wrote:One of the things that just kills me about this thread being moved is the idea that out there somewhere an LGBTQ youth, or even Savannah herself, or a possibly a parent of an LGBTQ child could be looking in here to see what kind of treatment the issue is having and pick up on respectful and varying views right up until they get to Water Dog's filthy remarks and see the underbelly of a society that really doesn't give a ____ about them.

It seriously sort of stabs at my heart.


As it should. Zeal without rationality or compassion is sociopathic.
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Re: Heather's Story validates November Policy

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You're simply inserting your theories again Dog. The mom has short hair. Dog's response - she's a butch lesbian. Savannah confided in her mom about being attracted to girls. Dog's response - the butch mom groomed her into a lesbian.

Come on dude! Under your assumptions, the church tries to groom everyone to be straight. They try and make everyone look the same (missionaries anyone), talk the same, behave the same. Doesn't all that fit your criteria for abuse that you do liberally want to throw at this mother?
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Re: Heather's Story validates November Policy

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Validates it in the sense of legalese, sure. Validates it in the sense of divine love and truth? Not at all. Divine love and truth are with Savannah and her mother.
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Re: Heather's Story validates November Policy

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Water Dog wrote:It is my opinion, based on my interpretation of all the data, that this whole thing was staged by the mother. The mother, Heather, is a crazy exmormon [homosexual] zealot/activist that talked her daughter Savannah, who is only 12, into being "gay."

Why do you think she is of homosexual orientation? The evidence (married and has a child) indicates the exact opposite.

Heather then authored a coming-out script that she further pressured Savannah into reading over the pulpit at a LDS church, which she despises, while sitting in the back and recording the whole thing.

Are you sure? According to what I read, it was Savannah's idea and Heather simply edited it for clarity and/or readability.


WD is just trying to flip the narrative.
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