The fact that it was planned well in advance makes the clash with the launch of 6DIA even more inexcusable. He’s off making money whilst his film loses everyone else theirs. Who’s working with the distributor and cinemas to keep the film being screened, if not the Executive Producer because he’s dashed off on yet another paid junket? It’s a really bizarre decision, the Captain deserting the sinking ship leaving all the crew and passengers behind to try and salvage it.Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:49 amSounds like another paid vacation.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:32 amWhy would a films executive producer arrange a holiday during his new films first few weeks of release? I wonder what the donors think about that? And was it a pre-planned trip, or a hastily arranged thing once he saw the film bombing? Are there angry phone calls from Interpreter treasurers and donors that the Producer wants to avoid?Another tour where they tell gullible Mormons this is where the best (wink wink) evidence tells us the Book of Mormon events took place. Even though there is no official word from our leaders about where Book of Mormon events took place (wink wink), we are pretty sure our leaders would not disagree with our (wink wink) "evidence."Interpreter Foundation Mesoamerica Tour
14-Day Deluxe Tour
Hosted by: Brant A. Gardner
Escorted by Blake Joseph Allen
With Dan Peterson, Steve Densley, and Larry Ainsworth
of The Interpreter Foundation
October 22 – November 4, 2024
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Six Days in August D.O.A.?
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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The Proprietor really has it out for Thomas Sharp. He posted essentially the same taunt last month (the detail about the purchase and restoration of Sharp’s home and the tavern is new).
“But if you are told by your leader to do a thing, do it. None of your business whether it is right or wrong.” Heber C. Kimball, 8 Nov. 1857
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Bizarre, as Sharp was acquitted of any complicity in the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. He went on to lead a productive and community-minded life until his old age.Tom wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:05 pmThe Proprietor really has it out for Thomas Sharp. He posted essentially the same taunt last month (the detail about the purchase and restoration of Sharp’s home and the tavern is new).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_C._SharpSharp gave up ownership and editorship of the Warsaw Signal in 1846. He was an elected delegate to the Illinois state constitutional convention in 1847 and was elected to three successive terms as the mayor of Warsaw beginning in 1853. He ran unsuccessfully as a Republican candidate for an Illinois seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 1856. In 1865, Sharp was elected as a judge in Hancock County. Later, he served as a school principal and eventually returned to the newspaper publishing business with ownership of the Carthage Gazette. He died in Carthage, Illinois, at the age of 75.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Six Days in August shows Sharp coming out of his trial with a smirk on his face, because of course he is still the bad guy who was responsible and knows it.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:44 pm
Bizarre, as Sharp was acquitted of any complicity in the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. He went on to lead a productive and community-minded life until his old age.
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All excellent points (or "superb," as the Afore is fond of saying), and yet more support for the thesis that Mopologetics resembles totalitarianism in various ways. Art and storytelling in authoritarian regimes does not have "truth" or "beauty" as its central concern: instead, it's about proving a point, such as that Stalinist Russia or Maoist China is the greatest nation on planet Earth. (And recall that the Executive Producer recently noted that, while watching a film about C.S. Lewis, he was noting how he would have "made exactly that argument" at such-and-such moment in the film.) Here, the point is that Joseph Smith is is the Greatest Prophet of All Time, that the LDS Church is the Truest Church of All Time, etc., and anyone who opposes this is fundamentally an "Enemy of the State"--someone to be exiled off to the gulag or whatever. So, yes, it's fitting that the film seems "dolled up and fake," and that temples tend to embrace a Stalinist architectural style, and that hardcore Mopologists wax ecstatic about how "beautiful" it all is. The parallels with Soviet Socialist Realism seem relevant here.Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:42 amWell, in this instance, it seems he wants the antagonist to Smith to experience the totalizing of Smith's epic success. Notice that the house restored by the faithful member is likely "more beautiful" than it ever was in its own time, which is a revealing position in aesthetics to take. Is it not consistent with the set of the film, which seems dolled up and fake? If you're going to visit a historic site, is the site more beautiful if it has silkiest paint job, or is it more beautiful if it best approximates what a house might have looked like at the time?
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That's a puzzling observation by the Proprietor.Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:00 amconfused by this:
The guy that's dead, right? How would he be aware of it? Unless I'm missing something. I guess he could mean in the spirit world? How would he become aware of it there?Tom Sharp’s former home and the directly adjoining tavern in which the conspirators met have now been purchased and restored (probably much more beautifully than they ever were before) by a Latter-day Saint woman. I hope that Mister Sharp is aware of this and, if so, I wonder what his reaction is.
I've done some reading about the tavern and Sharp's home. One article I read stated: "The original Warsaw House Hotel, where the mob met after they murdered the Prophet Joseph and the Patriarch Hyrum, was torn down in 1899." A 2015 Deseret News piece is a bit ambiguous on the point. The author writes: “The far-left portion of the home was once the Warsaw Fleming Tavern, a site where there was planning for and celebrating of the death of the Prophet and Patriarch. Tradition holds that some of the mob met there after the martyrdom." I cannot tell if the writer is claiming that the original tavern is the left-hand portion of a standing house or if the tavern was merely located on the same site in 1844. (The house seems to have been built in 1900.)
In any case, I haven't read that Sharp lived next to the tavern (see the first link above). (The Proprietor can correct me if I am mistaken on that front.) Apparently, Sharp did live for a time in a stone house overlooking the Mississippi River. (Note that the listing states that the house was built in 1827.) Some additional information about these sites is available here.
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Oct 24 Thursday 28 $6,974
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Thursday, October 24
Gross: $6,974
%+/- YD: -25.4
%+/- LW: -64.8
Theaters: 58
Average per theater: $120
Total domestic gross to date: $288,674
Days: 14
I’m not sure how much longer the film will be in theaters. These numbers are very discouraging.
ETA: I just saw Drumdude’s post. He beat me to the bad news.
Gross: $6,974
%+/- YD: -25.4
%+/- LW: -64.8
Theaters: 58
Average per theater: $120
Total domestic gross to date: $288,674
Days: 14
I’m not sure how much longer the film will be in theaters. These numbers are very discouraging.
ETA: I just saw Drumdude’s post. He beat me to the bad news.
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For comparison, Witnesses (during COVID) on day 14: $331,167
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