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_Sam Harris
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Gazelam wrote:On the contary, my wifes namecalling is usually due to my smugness and air of superiority. And theres no prefix, its just "Ass"


You married well.

Jersey Girl
:0)



She sure did, maybe someday she'll teach him something. She can start by neutering him.
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GIMR wrote:
Gazelam wrote:You said: "Gaz isn't feeling validated these days, so he lashes out in this manner."


Actually I am feeling sick and pissy, and therefore incapable of tact. And psycology is a hot button for me.


Psychology is a hot button for your dumb ass because you are so demonstrably in need of it.

I saw your post about depriving your child. My mom used to do that in her sicko days. If I didn't clean my room, she'd throw away all my toys, books, even take the sheets off my bed.

You're such a wonderful role model, Gaz. And how smart, tell the child he can't watch TV except on saturdays so you don't miss your TV land reruns during the week. How else would you find a way to model your life?

I'm sick too. Stop bitching. Remember what you said about other people bitching?


LOL!

Good Lord, we're all sick. You would think that we were all actually in the same room, or at least the same state!

Hopeully, we'll all be feeling better soon. ;)
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liz3564 wrote:LOL!

Good Lord, we're all sick. You would think that we were all actually in the same room, or at least the same state!

Hopeully, we'll all be feeling better soon. ;)


Jeez, it must be contagious. I am in bed with some nasty flu/sinus infection thing going on. Let's all get better.
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liz3564 wrote:LOL!

Good Lord, we're all sick. You would think that we were all actually in the same room, or at least the same state!

Hopeully, we'll all be feeling better soon. ;)



Hey sis! You're sick too? Man...

Mom said something about this virus going around, the name of which I cannot spell, but it's passed on by not washing hands. Well, I live with soap and hand sanitizer, so who knows what happened with me. Ears, sinuses, throat, and chest infected, lovely. I stayed home from work today, but I ain't happy about that...doesn't look good when you've been on the job 3 weeks...but they quarantined me in the conference room, man! LOL

About to go back to sleep soon... I hope you get to feeling better. I'm going to refill my antibiotics and stay in bed ALL WEEKEND.
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Runtu wrote:
liz3564 wrote:LOL!

Good Lord, we're all sick. You would think that we were all actually in the same room, or at least the same state!

Hopeully, we'll all be feeling better soon. ;)


Jeez, it must be contagious. I am in bed with some nasty flu/sinus infection thing going on. Let's all get better.


LOL, I had no idea that sickness could be passed through the internet. I spend so much time with you guys, I bet it's you who gave it to me. We have to stop sharing ideas...

ROFL

Feel better Runtu...
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GIMR wrote:LOL, I had no idea that sickness could be passed through the internet. I spend so much time with you guys, I bet it's you who gave it to me. We have to stop sharing ideas...

ROFL

Feel better Runtu...


Thanks. You too. What really sucks is that this is my normal day off (I work 4 days, 10 hours a day), and here I am in bed.
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moksha wrote:So Wade, do you have a preliminary plan for creating this listening post? How about a mission statement?


Hi Moksha,

Rather than creating a mission statement, I though I would craft a brief description of what the site is about, and include it as a part of the home page header (just under the site name). Here is what I have thought of so far:

"A self-help discussion board for LDS and former members to internally heal, repair and improve relationships, and become their best selves."

What do you think?

Besides the Guiding Principles and the Step-by-Step Process that I posted earlier in the thread, I also intend to include a notice in the header that will go something like:

"Notice: If you are suicidal, please call the Suicide HOTLINE. And, if your personal and relationship issues are significant enough to require a licenced professional, please contact LDS Family Services.

Additionally, I hope to include pages that explain Cognitive Behavior Therapy and Choice Theory and how each can be used in self-help ways. Also, as previously mentioned, I intend to have a resource page that the participants may be involved inp compiling and providing reviews and endorsments.

If things go as hoped, I will at some point include an Events Page (get togethers, conventions, etc.) as well as a Testimonial Page (for people to post their successes).

Can you or anyone else think what else may be useful?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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Runtu wrote:Thanks. You too. What really sucks is that this is my normal day off (I work 4 days, 10 hours a day), and here I am in bed.


Aww, that sucks. You a football fan? SuperBowl Sunday this weekend...get better before then...

I have a barrage of doctors appointments over the next two months...I hope all these tests amount to nada. It was so funny, I went to get my physical yesterday, and the doc went to draw blood, and usually it hurts, but this time I felt nothing, so like a fool, I looked. Well, the doc had a bad collection tube, and it wouldn't draw blood. Combine that with not having eaten yet, and I almost fainted! I don't usually faint! Well, I did once in ROTC, but I was legitimately sick. And then there was the time one of my annoying aunts was yelling at me, and I just didn't feel like listening to her. Apparently fainting was a good way out...

But man, I felt like a punk...
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GIMR wrote:One danger point, however. DO NOT set time periods on people's healing. I say this, because some people heal faster and some slower than others, and for those who don't see the "results" in the time period set, that may have disasterous consequences. I think guarantees past personal peace of mind are too much. You see, we live in a world where the only control we have is over what WE do. That must be emphasized.


I hear what you are saying. However, I think it important to understand that the time periods are not intended to be gaurantees, but rather reasonable GOALS that are set by the individual for themself (with some assistance from the facilitator). This is actually standard practice among Cognitive Behavioral Therapists. The rationale in doing it is at least two fold: 1) it is hope-inducing (it lets the participant know that there is an end to the tunnel, and that the end is not way off in some unforeseeable future), and 2) it gives them a target to shoot for.

It may surprise you how quickly people's lives and relationship can improve given the right interventions--this is particularly true for the kinds of low-level personal and relationship issue the site will be addressing.

However, I think it wise to post notice with step 5 that the time-frame is not a gaurantee, but a goal to strive towards; that the acheivement of the goal is dependant upon personal effort; that failure to achieve the goal is okay; and that revising the goal is also okay.

It'll take me some time, but if you like I can compile the list of stuff I have worked with.


That would be greatly appreciated. And, if it is of any help, you don't need to compile an exhaustive list, just some of the more helpful items.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:
moksha wrote:So Wade, do you have a preliminary plan for creating this listening post? How about a mission statement?


Hi Moksha,

Rather than creating a mission statement, I though I would craft a brief description of what the site is about, and include it as a part of the home page header (just under the site name). Here is what I have thought of so far:

"A self-help discussion board for LDS and former members to internally heal, repair and improve relationships, and become their best selves."

What do you think?

Besides the Guiding Principles and the Step-by-Step Process that I posted earlier in the thread, I also intend to include a notice in the header that will go something like:

"Notice: If you are suicidal, please call the Suicide HOTLINE. And, if your personal and relationship issues are significant enough to require a licenced professional, please contact LDS Family Services.

Additionally, I hope to include pages that explain Cognitive Behavior Therapy and Choice Theory and how each can be used in self-help ways. Also, as previously mentioned, I intend to have a resource page that the participants may be involved inp compiling and providing reviews and endorsments.

If things go as hoped, I will at some point include an Events Page (get togethers, conventions, etc.) as well as a Testimonial Page (for people to post their successes).

Can you or anyone else think what else may be useful?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


This sounds like a solid approach, Wade. One additional suggestion I would make is that in addition to including LDS Family Services, I would also include a link recommending competent psychologists in various states. Maybe Harmony or Truth Dancer would have that type of information handy. I'll look for a link myself when I'm feeling better.

The reason I suggest this is that if you're dealing with former members of the Church, some of them may not be too keen on LDS Family Services. It is a good organization, but I have also read accounts on RfM of people having had problems with them, which was part of the reason for the sourness with the Church. Just a thought. :)
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