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_Scottie
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
Scottie wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:Alright...I don't want to read 9 pages worth of crap. The only thing I have to say is that Dr. Shades' original rules said "rules are stupid". Let's follow that logic and scrap this dumb rule. Nobody will stick to it anyway. The first time an atheist gets a bee in their bonnet they aren't going to let a little disclaimer stop them. They'll post and we'll be back at the same problem, only that the mods will have moved one step closer to actually moderating (a job I for one certainly want to avoid).

Just my thoughts,


That would be great if people could moderate themselves. But, apparently they can't, therefore we need rules.


What's the point of rules if we can't enforce them? How exactly are we going to enforce this? I mean we can split a post, but the poster can go right back and do it again on the same thread or the next thread. Heck if we're going to get rules I guess we should get some way of enforcing them. Chastizing the posters obviously doesn't work. Asking and begging don't work. So basically it'll be a useless rule that ends up making the mods look even weaker because they can't even enforce their tiny number of rules. Very concrete rules like no "S's" and "F's" are easy to control. Temple content is easy to do. Language can be edited, but do you really think you can keep atheists from taking a knock at faith based threads just by asking them? Yeah right.


First, establish if there is really a problem. Many posters here seem to think there is.
Second, define the problem. Threads in the CK are constantly being derailed into "god doesn't exist", "the scriptures aren't true", etc. type threads. It ends up being the same discussion over and over again. How is this enjoyable to anyone?
Third, propose a solution. Marg proposed something. I (and the rest of the Mods but you) seemed to think it sounded like a great way to handle this!
Fourth, implement the plan. This is the tricky part. You're right. This is going to take some trial and error before we get good at it. But I believe that after the initial resistance, and some inevitable mistakes on the part of the mods, the board will be better for it.
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Post by _dartagnan »

by the way, Merc is dart an EV now? Dart?


Of course not. Since when has merc ever known what teh hell he is talking about?
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Post by _dartagnan »

Sounds like that has already been done on Dartagnan's board.


Excuse me?
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Post by _Alter Idem »

dartagnan wrote:
Sounds like that has already been done on Dartagnan's board.


Excuse me?


From the other "Faith based" thread:


Kevin wrote: And in defense of Liz, a few days ago she asked me if it was OK to use my old forum for this purpose. I said sure. But I think she is having a hard time trying to get people over there, so she is taking this measure as a last ditch effort. This is where everyone posts.



Liz wrote: Actually, Kevin, my asking to use your old forum was completely independent of initiating this policy. There was no connection. This policy was mutually discussed among the Mods. It was actually a suggestion made by Marg that we all thought was a good idea. I was just the lucky duck who volunteered to post it! LOL

The use of your forum is to initiate conversation with a handful of posters I have invited over there..period. I'm not looking for a lot of traffic.

My "home base", whether posters here like it or not, is still Shady Acres. LOL
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Post by _Moniker »

I think anyone can register there... if I was able to register on dart's board 8 months ago -- I'm pretty sure my registration lowered the bar.. considerably...
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Post by _The Nehor »

Scottie wrote:Nehor...well, he's just Nehor. I think you could take a crap on his favorite rug and he'd just make a sarcastic quip and move on with life. Lack of anger is just as much a problem as too much anger...I think he has issues...;)


Okay, that made me laugh. Thanks. I may need a new signature too. Still considering.

Oh, and the joke is on you. I don't have a favorite rug.
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Post by _Alter Idem »

Moniker wrote:I think anyone can register there... if I was able to register on dart's board 8 months ago -- I'm pretty sure my registration lowered the bar.. considerably...


Yes, Moniker, I'm registered there also. That wasn't what I was referring to.

This was the comment which I likened to KA's remarks about exclusivity.

The use of your forum is to initiate conversation with a handful of posters I have invited over there..period. I'm not looking for a lot of traffic.


I don't know if they have any secret handshakes or special passwords, but participation is by invitation only.
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Post by _Moniker »

Alter Idem wrote:
Moniker wrote:I think anyone can register there... if I was able to register on dart's board 8 months ago -- I'm pretty sure my registration lowered the bar.. considerably...


Yes, Moniker, I'm registered there also. That wasn't what I was referring to.

This was the comment which I likened to KA's remarks about exclusivity.

The use of your forum is to initiate conversation with a handful of posters I have invited over there..period. I'm not looking for a lot of traffic.


I don't know if they have any secret handshakes or special passwords, but participation is by invitation only.


Oh, I understand. Well, this is how I feel about it. Dart's board is not heavily trafficked, and if someone wants to use his board to have a conversation with a few people that they want to I'm not against that. It's his board, and if he's okay with that, then so be it. I feel the same way about any board -- it can be set up however the board owner desires.

Yet, when we move to this board where there is the notion that no one is excluded and all voices are heard I feel differently. I don't want to have to stay clear of threads in Celestial 'cause supposedly this is where the "smart" folks go. I've seen mention where people are told to go and stay in the lower kingdoms. I think as long as people can appreciate the different areas of the board and respect them then they should be allowed to post wherever -- if they follow the rules. I'm against banning anyone from any kingdom.

About exclusivity in the threads themselves. I've had threads that I originated and if it's derailed I merely ask a mod to move the section to telestial -- and it's been done. I'm not a thread nazi, usually, but sometimes the constant derailments do become quite tiresome. I think a thread originator can clearly state the purpose of a thread and ask that it not be derailed. I make off-topic remarks in threads, and people do so in mine. Skippy and I just snort at Crockett, KA pops in to talk about fornication pants in my evolution thread , Bond flirts with me, Liz discusses Goddess goodies... I mean, plenty of us do the one-liners. Those don't bother me half as much as people coming into a thread with an agenda to change the entire focus of the thread away from the OP.
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Post by _Dr. Shades »

[MODERATOR NOTE: The new rule on flagging a thread as "faith-based" is hereby overturned.

Now back to your regularly-scheduled programming.]
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

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Post by _skippy the dead »

You rock, dude.

(and I will limit this reply to just this thread, rather than replicate it across the panoply of similar threads).

Cheers!
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe / But at least I'm enjoying the ride.
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