Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Should we hire moderators?

Poll ended at Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:03 am

Yes, we should hire moderators
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No, things are fine as they are
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Total votes: 43

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Re: Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Cultellus wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:01 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:59 pm
Funny how Conservatards project. Atlantic Clown and Qultellus were conspiring through messaging, and it’s Atlantic Clown thinking Lem and Jersey Girl were doing what he’s guilty of doing himself.

Gosh darn clowns.

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Great, so who protected you, again? Who banned Atlanticmike to shield you?

How does anyone even know that Atlanticmike was banned, as opposed to him merely being a sock puppet of Cultellus’s that the latter has ceased posting under, to generate a new distraction?

The person making the accusation should provide some proof.

ETA: Gad provided the proof. Good for him; can’t say that he had many options.
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Re: Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Cultellus wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:54 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:49 pm


I agree. On the other hand, accusing several posters of belonging to a cabal that has conspired to and successfully banned a poster is a pretty serious accusation. I don't think it's unreasonable to insist on evidence and to test the evidence offered, especially when the only evidence is a claim by a poster with less than a firm grip on truth.
Uh. Reminder, Res. This is not a court.

Atlanticmike is presently banned from posting. Someone did it. Many know about it. Nobody is answering the questions. His posts were deleted. So pleasure yourself with your BS about a firm grip on truth, Counselor. You're not entitled to evidence, Counselor. This is not a court. You are not a prosecutor.

He was banned. Big damn deal. Who did it and what rule was applied?
I do believe you have your answers now.
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I literally lived up to my deal with Dr. Shades. I Mormonified my language above to be in compliance with this forum’s rules. And I still get warned! :|

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Re: Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:07 pm

Order of events: I said quit bringing vulgarity from Paradise to Terrestrial. I specified A-Mike because he was the only one doing it. A-Mike did it more. I edited out the vulgarity from a couple posts. So of course, he posted more vulgarity. So I deleted the next one; the next one; the next one; then I had stuff I had to do, and realized given past history, this could turn into a vulgarity explosion in Terrestrial, so I banned him for a few hours.
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… and if some new poster registers who demands to be able to use whatever language he or she wants until all A-Mike's past posts are either individually condemned, altered or deleted, that person's demand will not be met either. See, it's fair.
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:07 pm
Sorry guys, I had to go. I banned A-Mike. He's banned for maybe another 3 hours? Given he's racked up nearly 900 posts in just a few days of posting, hopefully he won't feel too put out, and he will have plenty of time to catch up. He'll become a God faster than any other child of the forum in history.

Order of events: I said quit bringing vulgarity from Paradise to Terrestrial. I specified A-Mike because he was the only one doing it. A-Mike did it more. I edited out the vulgarity from a couple posts. So of course, he posted more vulgarity. So I deleted the next one; the next one; the next one; then I had stuff I had to do, and realized given past history, this could turn into a vulgarity explosion in Terrestrial, so I banned him for a few hours.

And look -- we're able to have a nice heated conversation with some generous personal attacks but not too bad and without the x-rated stuff.

Let me take a moment to sternly warn Doc Cam:

A lot of people are really concerned about you Dr. Cam, and so if you should decide to post vulgarity on this thread or other threads in Terrestrial, I will edit out the vulgarity or delete the post.

Everybody happy? Doc Cam has now been warned. I will indeed edit Doc Cam's posts in Terrestrial should he cross the line.

(this only applies until some things can be worked out with Shades who is incognito; Shades might tell me to take a hike and all bets are off.)

Unrealistic expectation:

It won't matter who is moderator or if Shades retains it all for himself, one thing that is never going to happen is a full sweep consideration of all past transgressions of the forum when considering moderator action against any particular individual. I'm not opposed if someday we go through history and edit out all the bad stuff, but that's a big job, and not really practical.

Rest assured, A-Mike has about equal vulgarity in his past posts as most other line-crossers put together, and if some new poster registers who demands to be able to use whatever language he or she wants until all A-Mike's past posts are either individually condemned, altered or deleted, that person's demand will not be met either. See, it's fair.

If Res does end up moderating Paradise, I'm pretty sure that in terms of extreme personal attacks and vulgarity, everyone will be treated equally in terms of that day forward.
Thanks for explanation, Gad. I strongly favor keeping all the rule breaking that has occurred in Paradise out of Terrestrial. It's unfortunate that the only other person who can do that is Shades, who has a very full plate with other stuff. Paradise is a train wreck, but it shouldn't bleed over into Terrestrial. The heart of the board is the Mormon Discussions (hence the name), and I think it makes sense to keep posts within the rules.

I certainly wouldn't sign on to hold some kind of "truth and reconciliation" proceeding to evaluate past posts. Litigating past bad behavior over a period when we've had no moderation would be a fool's errand. I do think there are some threads worth cleaning up on a case by case basis, but I'm happy to leave that one to future moderators.
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Re: Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:07 pm

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Re: Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Cultellus wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:17 pm
canpakes wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:09 pm

How does anyone even know that Atlanticmike was banned, as opposed to him merely being a sock puppet of Cultellus’s that the latter has ceased posting under, to generate a new distraction?

The person making the accusation should provide some proof.

ETA: Gad provided the proof. Good for him; can’t say that he had many options.
Idiot.
I’m terribly hurt by your accusation. I must now proceed to spam the boards with 900 trash posts complaining about your bigotry.

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Re: Should we bring back a moderator team?

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Hey Gad
Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:07 pm
Sorry guys, I had to go. I banned A-Mike. He's banned for maybe another 3 hours?
Thanks for taking the time to provide an explanation to the board. I recognize that you were put in a difficult spot - alone on an island - with the in real life circumstances that Shades has expressed on the board.

Personally, I am both pleased and relieved to learn that you handed down a 3 hour ban. Thanks again for the information!
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