If we have to agree to terms I think we will be talking past each other. I don’t see a need to have an agreed upon definition of religious belief. And I don’t think that everyone then has to practice that agreed upon definition (that’s impossible) of religious belief.
As to your final sentence…no. That’s not what I’m saying. I don’t think you carefully read my posts. You often completely misunderstand what I’m saying. It’s almost as if you’re making up what you’re wanting me to say so that you can then respond to that fabrication.
Regards,
MG
You inevitably move to personal attack when you can't figure out what to say.
That's okay, the conversation will still go on. Catch up when you can!
Not a personal attack. Just stating what I believe to be the most likely explanation for what I’m seeing from you. The conversation was going on before you arrived with your nitpicking behavior. I’d really rather not have to say that, but it’s the truth as I see it.
Your contributions generally inhibit good conversation rather than encourage it.
You inevitably move to personal attack when you can't figure out what to say.
That's okay, the conversation will still go on. Catch up when you can!
Not a personal attack. Just stating what I believe to be the most likely explanation for what I’m seeing from you. The conversation was going on before you arrived with your nitpicking behavior. I’d really rather not have to say that, but it’s the truth as I see it.
Your contributions generally inhibit good conversation rather than encourage it.
My opinion...
But, not a personal attack, right? You give yourself away, every single time! When you think up a better response, please post again. We'll be here.
…in my opinion, "religious belief" is not a part of the human condition unless virtually every human being has it, and it has an agreed upon definition. That is clearly not the case in your discussion here, as you are arguing everyone is along a spectrum of spirituality as it relates to (your very specific type of) religious belief.
If we have to agree to terms I think we will be talking past each other. I don’t see a need to have an agreed upon definition of religious belief. And I don’t think that everyone then has to practice that agreed upon definition (that’s impossible) of religious belief.
It’s only impossible if people choose to misuse an agreed upon definition. Discussions are often much easier, and go more smoothly when key terms have agreed definitions. Here’s how Collins defines ‘belief’ “Belief is a feeling of certainty that something exists, is true, or is good”. So religious belief is “a feeling of certainty that <insert deity of choice> exists, that <insert religion of choice> is true, or is good.”
It’s been my experience in all walks of life, that agreeing the definition of key terms is not just a nice to have, it’s crucial to avoid misunderstanding.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
If we have to agree to terms I think we will be talking past each other. I don’t see a need to have an agreed upon definition of religious belief. And I don’t think that everyone then has to practice that agreed upon definition (that’s impossible) of religious belief.
It’s only impossible if people choose to misuse an agreed upon definition. Discussions are often much easier, and go more smoothly when key terms have agreed definitions. Here’s how Collins defines ‘belief’ “Belief is a feeling of certainty that something exists, is true, or is good”. So religious belief is “a feeling of certainty that <insert deity of choice> exists, that <insert religion of choice> is true, or is good.”
It’s been my experience in all walks of life, that agreeing the definition of key terms is not just a nice to have, it’s crucial to avoid misunderstanding.
Who defines key terms? What if I see ‘spirituality’ as being more all inclusive than you do?
It’s only impossible if people choose to misuse an agreed upon definition. Discussions are often much easier, and go more smoothly when key terms have agreed definitions. Here’s how Collins defines ‘belief’ “Belief is a feeling of certainty that something exists, is true, or is good”. So religious belief is “a feeling of certainty that <insert deity of choice> exists, that <insert religion of choice> is true, or is good.”
It’s been my experience in all walks of life, that agreeing the definition of key terms is not just a nice to have, it’s crucial to avoid misunderstanding.
Who defines key terms? What if I see ‘spirituality’ as being more all inclusive than you do?
Regards,
MG
People in a discussion can generally agree the definition of terms between them. One of the challenges of discussing things with you is that you change the definition of terms as you go along. You are even known rebut your own earlier explanation of key terms. It’s a bizarre watch sometimes. Albeit amusing. Pick a definition of a term and stick to it.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Who defines key terms? What if I see ‘spirituality’ as being more all inclusive than you do?
Regards,
MG
People in a discussion can generally agree the definition of terms between them. One of the challenges of discussing things with you is that you change the definition of terms as you go along. You are even known rebut your own earlier explanation of key terms. It’s a bizarre watch sometimes. Albeit amusing. Pick a definition of a term and stick to it.
People in a discussion can generally agree the definition of terms between them. One of the challenges of discussing things with you is that you change the definition of terms as you go along. You are even known rebut your own earlier explanation of key terms. It’s a bizarre watch sometimes. Albeit amusing. Pick a definition of a term and stick to it.
You didn’t answer my question.
Regards,
MG
Feel free to define what you mean when you say “spirituality” and I’ll see if I agree or disagree.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Feel free to define what you mean when you say “spirituality” and I’ll see if I agree or disagree.
What I thought…
Regards,
MG
Didn’t think you’d tie yourself down to a specific definition of a term, you want to reserve the right to make it be whatever suits you in the moment. Even if it’s different to what you wanted it to mean previously.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Didn’t think you’d tie yourself down to a specific definition of a term, you want to reserve the right to make it be whatever suits you in the moment. Even if it’s different to what you wanted it to mean previously.
In earlier posts I’ve talked extensively as to what I think spirituality might include. Go back and read, if you’re willing.
As of yet, I don’t know how you would define that word at any length.
You are weaseling.
C’mon. What is spirituality? A definition that you think is all encompassing and that I am more than likely to agree with…because it’s so OBVIOUS.
I spent pages and time defining spirituality and how it might apply ‘across the spectrum’.
Now, do me a favor. Be vulnerable. Express your own damn opinion.
You inevitably move to personal attack when you can't figure out what to say.
