This Black Woman's LDS Story

[_bcspace]

We need more people who can go the whole day without thinking about skin color. At last, the rising generation seems to be able to do this. The older generations need to let go. (Bold added)

That is an excellent statement, congrats!! I agree, and apply that sentiment to so many other things that tend to knot-up the old-folks.

Amen! Such attitudes would solve the problem.

Here we might split a bit, but things like homosexuality, women as GAs, non-LDS in marrige sealing services, full disclosure...

We would indeed.

Time and intelligence works wonders with ignorance, prejudice and superstition.

Unfortunately, some people need more time.....;)

Warm regards, Roger

Back atcha.

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

GIMR, I know that avatar is from that play you like. At first glance, she reminded me of Dame Edna. Dame Edna was such a madcap lady.

The Avatar the GIMR is using is from a Diary of a Mad Black Women

I understand precisely why she is using that AVATAR

Dame Edna is nothing like Madea...at least I don't think so.....Madea has no problem spekaing her mind and standing up for the ones she loves...

[_Sam Harris]

Thank you, Smart Bitch.

I have a problem with ignorant people who seem to think that equality is a problem, and who also think it's ok to call me outside my name because ignorant people of my race like to use the word.

I love to see how the ignorants try to make any quest for equality out to be racist.

Yes, let's go back to peeing in those dixie cups. BCSpace was obviously sleeping through history class.

[_Sam Harris]

BC Space you missed the whole point, of course in your apologetic attempt to discredit me.

I missed no point and attempted no discreditation

Not all blacks have a chip on their shoulder, I don't.

I never implied otherwise.....

I forced myself not to see myself as a black person for a long time, simply because people wanted to focus on my color in my youth, both blacks and whites.

As I said, parable of the sower. Your sinking back to racist attitudes are the same that prevent peace and harmony on this issue.

But I'm not going to repeat myself. You are a FAIR veteran, and comprehension skills over there are severely lacking.

So total acceptance of non Christian values equates to comprehension for you? LOL!

If you punched me back, I'd just have to whoop your ass.

I was wrong. You ARE one of the ones with a chip on your shoulder....

Sorry, but that's as far as I'm going to engage someone like you who belongs to a church that still upholds the curse of cain doctrine as true,

The curse of Cain was not black skin. Try again.

not to mention blaming all that has happened as far as race relations in this country over the past 50 years on things like affirmative action and the NAACP.

To use one's skin color as a basis for merit is racist. Therefore, the NAACP is a racist oprganization and affirmative action is a racist policy.

Dude, find another planet to live on.

Fine. But I won't be taking you as one of my wives....LOL! ;)

See my other thread. And if all you can do is twist my words here, then the battle is one you lost. I'll bump it up for you. Either take the challenge, or take your candy behind elsewhere.

And I would never subject my children to the self-degredation it would be to have someone as ignorant as you for a father.

[_bcspace]

And if all you can do is twist my words here, then the battle is one you lost.

If you can't show how I may have twisted your words, I have won indeed.

And I would never subject my children to the self-degredation it would be to have someone as ignorant as you for a father.

One of the greatest self-degredations of all is to think that one deserves merit because of one's skin color. Fortunately, I have taught my children to be color-blind rather than to perpetuate racism.

[_Sam Harris]

My merit comes from my character, not my skin color. And don't be such a wimp, go to my other thread.

I am amazed that you can type but can't read.

Another casualty of the parable of the sower......

The single men who would talk to the white woman next to me, but not even meet my gaze half the time. Some of these guys weren't even white! But they weren't black, either.

The fact that my "sistas" in the ward never dated LDS men, and had to look outside the church for love. The few that I know that are still active STILL DO...yet they hang on in misery dreaming of that temple marriage.

The "skins of blackness" passages in the Book of Mormon, that I remember trying to justify with friends of color who were LDS.

I'm married now, but in my single days I might have asked you out you had we met. I dated several women who had 'black' skin back then. Skin color has never been an issue for me.

Not to mention all that I came across on the internet...including people on ldslinkup.com trying to justify the use of the word "n*gger", just because they'd heard some black people use it. Well I don't, and if you call me that you will get punched. Seriously.

The era of political correctness and the chip carried on the shoulders of many urbanized American 'blacks' exacerbated by racist organizations such as the NAACP is the root of this problem. Had a missionary companion from Kenya who made the same assessment as we served together. For 'whites', the only thing that can be done is to treat 'blacks' the same as you would treat anyone else unless they pull the race card and then you should ignore them until they come to their senses.

Not to mention all that I came across on the internet...including people on ldslinkup.com trying to justify the use of the word "n*gger", just because they'd heard some black people use it.

Though I personally refrain from using that word, it's a perfectly reasonable justification and hypocritical to argue against it if you feel only a certain culture is allowed to say it and nobody else should.

Well I don't, and if you call me that you will get punched. Seriously.

If I heard someone of your skin color casually using that word in reference to you and you accepted it, and I then happened to use that same word to reference you in the same manner and you punched me, I would not hesitate to punch you back and call you a hypocrite.

We need more people who can go the whole day without thinking about skin color. At last, the rising generation seems to be able to do this. The older generations need to let go.

You need to tell me where in the world I said it was ok for anyone to use the word n*ggger, and where I said I felt the need of the assistance of affirmative action, etc.

You are barking up the wrong tree, fundie. I've pissed off black people for waking them up to the fact that this is 2006, and a good character and education will get you far. I have one, and am working on the second (education, so you won't try to run with that). But I have a problem with racism from either direction (told the elders I hated racism in BLACK CHURCHES...but your illiterate nature wouldn't have caught that), and cultural ignorance. Don't go there. You are talking to a very "mixed" person with regards to race and religion. Recognizing that cultural and religious differences exist, but not putting one over the other is not racism. Trying to justify a so called "policy" with all sorts of bogus conjectures is. And I'm not talking about YOU, I'm talking about your past GAs...who some people still read up on.

[_Sam Harris]

This is typical FAIR b**s***! You talk about the problem, and they call YOU a racist.

BCSPACE kiss my behind. I'm not going to let the FAIR freaks dig up extra pain again. Either face my thread or admit defeat. I disengage you.

[_bcspace]

You need to tell me where in the world I said it was ok for anyone to use the word n*ggger, and where I said I felt the need of the assistance of affirmative action, etc.

Just as soon as you quote anything I said that implies that.

I've pissed off black people for waking them up to the fact that this is 2006, and a good character and education will get you far. I have one, and am working on the second (education, so you won't try to run with that).

Commendable.

But I have a problem with racism from either direction (told the elders I hated racism in BLACK CHURCHES

As do I.

...but your illiterate nature wouldn't have caught that), and cultural ignorance.

A big ASSumption on your part.

Don't go there. You are talking to a very "mixed" person with regards to race and religion. Recognizing that cultural and religious differences exist, but not putting one over the other is not racism. Trying to justify a so called "policy" with all sorts of bogus conjectures is.

And what policy is that? That Cain and his seed were cursed according to the priesthood is LDS scripture.

And I'm not talking about YOU, I'm talking about your past GAs...who some people still read up on.

I am quite well-read on GA's old and new. And I also am able to tell the difference between personal opinion and doctrine which takes more than a GA or simply the prophet to make.

[_Sam Harris]

When you're ready...

[_bcspace]

When you're ready...

LOL! When your opinion originates from a perception of how people looked at you (or didn't look at you), I'd say you're not ready at all.