Harry Reid.....The most powerful Mormon??

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Gazelam wrote:Also Bryan, perversion of a religious institution like marriage isn't a right. Mr. Reid chose the wrong side of an issue because, like the people he was in fact serveing, his view of the world is skewed based on false philosophies. Homosexuality is a self inflicted mental disorder.

Gaz


Gaz, I've always wanted to ask this question: How does homosexuality "pervert marriage"? Can you give a few practical examples?
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Bryan, how many of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were freemasons?


I'm not sure what this has to do with Reid, but here's the list:


Confirmed Masonic Membership of the following:
William Ellery, RI
Benjamin Franklin, PA
John Hancock, MA
Joseph Hewes, NC
William Hooper, NC
Robert Treat Paine, MA
Richard Stockton, New Jersey
George Walton, GA
William Whipple, NH


Source: http://www.pagrandlodge.org/programs/ma ... ation.html

Here's the unconfirmed list:


Membership Rumored, but not Proven by Records:
Elbridge Gerry, MA
Thomas Jefferson, VA
Richard Henry Lee, VA
Thomas McKean, DE
Robert Morris, PA
Thomas Nelson, Jr., VA
John Penn, NC
Benjamin Rush, PA
Roger Sherman, CT
James Smith, PA
John Witherspoon, New Jersey


Source: http://www.pagrandlodge.org/programs/ma ... mored.html

Ah, I see my illustrious ancestor is on the rumored list.
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The example that God gave us for marriage was his uniteing of Adam and Eve as immortal beings. Thus a marriage is between a man and a woman and is intended to be for all eternity. With a Man being resurrected as a man, and a woman being resurrected as a woman, and the ability of the two of them to create life in imitation of those resurrected before them on other worlds, this is all an eternal principle.

Two perverts wanting legal medical and tax rights doesent fall into this pattern.


In regards to Masons, what do the Masons espouse their purpose to be regarding the communities they practice in?
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Gazelam wrote:The example that God gave us for marriage was his uniteing of Adam and Eve as immortal beings. Thus a marriage is between a man and a woman and is intended to be for all eternity. With a Man being resurrected as a man, and a woman being resurrected as a woman, and the ability of the two of them to create life in imitation of those resurrected before them on other worlds, this is all an eternal principle.


You just gave a good argument for monogamy. And you shot your polygamy argument in the foot.

Two perverts wanting legal medical and tax rights doesent fall into this pattern.


Why do you call them perverts? Perversion is a societal, cultural phenomena. Thus society can change what it views as perverse. As is currently happening with society's view of homosexuals.
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Gazelam wrote:In regards to Masons, what do the Masons espouse their purpose to be regarding the communities they practice in?


Well, according to Wikipedia

Freemasonry is a fraternal organization whose membership is held together by shared moral and metaphysical ideals and—in most of its branches—by a constitutional declaration of belief in a Supreme Being.


I don't really see anything there about Christianity.

It says there's a belief in a Supreme Being. Maybe I'm wrong and it really says "Christian God" but I don't think so.

In fact, my Buddhist friend is a mason, as is an associate of mine who is a practicing Wiccan. And I, myself, am in the process of joining the Masons. . . and I don't believe in the Christian God and the lodge of which I am joining knows my beliefs.

So. . . ummm. . . what's your point?

From another website about Freemasonry, I pulled the following:

The Masonic experience encourages members to become better men, better husbands, better fathers, and better citizens. The fraternal bonds formed in the Lodge help build lifelong friendships among men with similar goals and values.

Beyond its focus on individual development and growth, Masonry is deeply involved in helping people. The Freemasons of North America contribute over two million dollars a day to charitable causes. This philanthropy represents an unparalleled example of the humanitarian commitment of this great and honorable Fraternity. Much of that assistance goes to people who are not Masons. Some of these charities are vast projects. The Shrine Masons (Shriners) operate the largest network of hospitals for burned and orthopedically impaired children in the country, and there is never a fee for treatment. The Scottish Rite Masons maintain a nationwide network of over 150 Childhood Language Disorder Clinics, Centers, and Programs.

Many other Masonic organizations sponsor a variety of philanthropies, including scholarship programs for children, and perform public service activities in their communities. Masons also enjoy the fellowship of each other and their families in social and recreational activities.


Again, evidence dictates that I ask. . . what's your point?
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Re: Harry Reid.....The most powerful Mormon??

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Jason Bourne wrote:maybe Mitt can one up him in 2008.


Yah, and maybe Osama will star in the broadway production of Annie as Daddy Warbucks.

Romney doesn't have a chance.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
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