If Romney wins the Presidency, which oath will come first?

[_Who Knows]

I wonder if he'll go to the temple while he's president (IF he's president). I guess he'd have to have some Mormon secret service agents to accompany him. I also wonder if they'll be allowed to bring their guns in with them.

just thinking out loud here...

[_Jason Bourne]

Jason Bourne

Of course this presumes the fallacious assumption that the two will ever or even do conflict.

Is that sorta like whats good for General Motors is good for the country?? Only in this case its whats good for LDS Inc. is good for the country??

No. My point is that in reality, there is no conflict between the two. If anyone is familiar with the temple oath in questoin and they really think it through they will reach the same conclusion. No where does the concsecration oath require one to robitically follow LDS leaders.

It does ask for time and resources.

[_Who Knows]

If anyone is familiar with the temple oath in questoin and they really think it through they will reach the same conclusion. No where does the concsecration oath require one to robitically follow LDS leaders.

It does ask for time and resources.

Here it is:

It [the law of consecration] is that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents and everything which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

How can you say that doesn't require any member to 'robotically' follow LDS leaders? The leaders are the ones who tell us what we need to do - they're God's mouthpiece right?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

I find it absolutely incredible that Romney is going to go through the same three ring circus JFK went through forty years ago because of his Catholicism.

in my opinion, the issue is not really Mitt's Mormonism -- it's his taking part in a very unique LDS temple ceremony where he personally and expressly made a very absolute and unqualified oath of loyalty to the LDS Church, which, at least in theory, could come into conflict with his presidential oath. This has nothing to do with religious prejudice, but just the actual existence for Mitt the Mormon and Mitt the President of two potentially conflicting oaths of loyalty.

What is not at all shocking is that almost all of this tempest in a teapot is coming from the secular Left, as is most of the renewed anti-semitism here and in Europe.

What does any of this have to do with "renewed anti-semitism here and in Europe"?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Here it is:

It [the law of consecration] is that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents and everything which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

How can you say that doesn't require any member to 'robotically' follow LDS leaders? The leaders are the ones who tell us what we need to do - they're God's mouthpiece right?

There's another oath where the maker also agrees to give up everything, including his/her life if necessary.

[_Who Knows]

There's another oath where the maker also agrees to give up everything, including his/her life if necessary.

I know that used to be in there - but i thought it wasn't anymore.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

There's another oath where the maker also agrees to give up everything, including his/her life if necessary.

I know that used to be in there - but i thought it wasn't anymore.

It still is. It's known as the Law of Sacrifice.

[_Jason Bourne]

If anyone is familiar with the temple oath in questoin and they really think it through they will reach the same conclusion. No where does the concsecration oath require one to robitically follow LDS leaders.

It does ask for time and resources.

Here it is:

It [the law of consecration] is that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents and everything which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

How can you say that doesn't require any member to 'robotically' follow LDS leaders? The leaders are the ones who tell us what we need to do - they're God's mouthpiece right?

I say it because in my mind conscecrating all these things to building God's kingdom says nothing about jumping to everyt whim from the prophets mouth. It does mean that I put sfforts and resources into it though.

[_Yoda]

I voted that Romney would put the Presidency first.

The irony of it is....I think that most Church members will vote for him BECAUSE they honestly feel he'll put his temple covenants first. ;)

[_moksha]

Looking ahead, I expect that Mitt Romney and Steve Young will be the next two Republican Senators from Utah. By then they may even have middle initials.