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_The Nehor
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Dr. Shades wrote:To make an example of him. It used to happen all the time. Nowadays, thanks to the Internet, the church gets bad PR when they do, so they have to be much more circumspect.

By the way, did you see my post directly above your last one?


Being a member of the Church and actively preaching against it leads to severance from it. If you go inactive and don't teach against the Church of fight it publicly nothing happens.
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The Nehor wrote:Being a member of the Church and actively preaching against it leads to severance from it. If you go inactive and don't teach against the Church of fight it publicly nothing happens.


Once again, you are confusing me, Nehor. Would there need to be a disciplinary council for an apostate or not?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Once again, you are confusing me, Nehor. Would there need to be a disciplinary council for an apostate or not?


If a member of the Church is actively attacking or slandering the Church then yes, there will probably be a disciplinary council. Generally it requires one to either teach that the Church is not correct in doctrine or practice.

If I were to stop going to Church tomorrow and live my life as if I were a non-member I wouldn't face any discipline. If I started publishing or publicly speaking out against the Church action might be taken.
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Post by _moksha »

How about a software A.I. scanner can can check our posts for purity of doctrinal content? Red flagged posts could then be scrutinized more carefully by the data analysis section of the Committee.
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Post by _harmony »

The Nehor wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Once again, you are confusing me, Nehor. Would there need to be a disciplinary council for an apostate or not?


If a member of the Church is actively attacking or slandering the Church then yes, there will probably be a disciplinary council. Generally it requires one to either teach that the Church is not correct in doctrine or practice.

If I were to stop going to Church tomorrow and live my life as if I were a non-member I wouldn't face any discipline. If I started publishing or publicly speaking out against the Church action might be taken.


Posting on an internet bulletin board doesn't constitute publishing or public speaking. But I'm with Shades. Someone from church headquarters monitors this board. I doubt it's any of the Brethren, Tommy notwithstanding, but I think someone keeps track of what's said here.
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moksha wrote:How about a software A.I. scanner can can check our posts for purity of doctrinal content? Red flagged posts could then be scrutinized more carefully by the data analysis section of the Committee.


Why am I getting a picture of CTU from 24 buried in the Church Office Building.

"Nehor may have crossed the line this time, his postings have dropped to a 69% purity rating."
"What was his rating last month?"
"75%"
"He's slipping, bug his phones and watch him carefully. Our operative in his ward needs to monitor what he says in Gospel Doctrine and try to discourage his contact with those in the ward classified as 'vulnerable'"
"Wooo, I just read his latest post, he's on to us."
"Contact Delta Danite Squad, eliminate him NOW!!!!!!!!"
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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Post by _Some Schmo »

If they do monitor the boards, my guess is that they're more concerned with what the pro-mormons are saying over the critics. I know I would be if I were a believer.
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Post by _rcrocket »

harmony wrote:
Posting on an internet bulletin board doesn't constitute publishing or public speaking.


Reality notwithstanding.

I can see why truth, facts and evidence have no place in your argument here or anywhere.

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rcrocket wrote:
harmony wrote:
Posting on an internet bulletin board doesn't constitute publishing or public speaking.


Reality notwithstanding.

I can see why truth, facts and evidence have no place in your argument here or anywhere.

rcrocket


And once again you demonstrate that you cannot let a day go by without insulting me. A person would think we were still in junior high.

What reality are you thinking of, rcrocket? Yours, or the real one?
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harmony wrote:
rcrocket wrote:
harmony wrote:
Posting on an internet bulletin board doesn't constitute publishing or public speaking.


Reality notwithstanding.

I can see why truth, facts and evidence have no place in your argument here or anywhere.

rcrocket


And once again you demonstrate that you cannot let a day go by without insulting me. A person would think we were still in junior high.

What reality are you thinking of, rcrocket? Yours, or the real one?


I do not insult you. I challenge your argument. I am not sure what thinking objective people really think when you counterattack with a claim of insult at anybody who might disagree with you.

The reality is, simply, that the internet is a medium to publish thought.

As the U.S. Supreme Court said in Reno v. ACLU, 117 S. Ct. 2329 (1997): "Through the use of chat rooms, any person with a phone line can become a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox. Through the use of Web pages, mail exploders, and newsgroups, the same individual can become a pamphleteer."

Your internet postings "resonate" much further than the proverbial soapbox, which itself is public advocacy and publication.

The Internet is simply another public medium. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet. There are no restrictions on access. Anybody with a computer may read what you post. What you post is called "publishing." I have no doubt that any church pastor or leader, whether it be a Mormon Bishop or an Episcopal priest, or any college communications professor, would agree with you.

What you post is "public" and a "publication."

rcrocket
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