dartagnan wrote:I recall one of the testimonies against Joseph Smith regarding his money-digging. I forget the witness but he said that on one occassion Joseph's seeking ability faded so he decided to sacrifice a goat to compensate for it, in which case his ability was restored.
I always thought this testimony proved people were out to just make up ludicrous stuff about the Prophet, but after reading this thread, I wonder if there is any truth to it.
The story related by John C. Bennett, an unbiased and scrupulous source.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
CaliforniaKid wrote:Good. Let's make the United States a paradise by relocating all the Republicans to Canada.
-California "What if I don't want to be relocated?" Kid
Many people haven't wanted to die for years. They learned to live with it and died anyway.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Sethbag wrote:ROFL. It's not enough that we adopt the ancient mythologies of Bronze Age tribes - we have to adopt their barbarity too.
I wonder when a modern-day Joshua will be appointed in the church to lead the hordes of the Elders of Israel in wiping out every man, woman, child, infant, and pet dog and cat of some people whose land the Lord has appointed to the Mormons for an inheritance.
Actually according to the book God is going to do that for us.
Funny, God hasnt done Jack for us so far. What makes you think you have an imaginary friend that will do these things?
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Loquacious Lurker wrote:He's such a nice guy. I wonder why I don't like him.
You can't make paradise unless you clean out the jerks. Death is a relocation, nothing more.
Kinda like Manifest Destiny. Unfotunately, most of the "jerks" in the Old Testament had no idea they were jerks until god's army descended on them and killed them all for not worshipping him. But I already know the Mormon response to this- Since they had no knowledge of the gospel when they died they will go to the middle kingdom, or something like that, so the invading Israelites actually did them a favor by killing them before they had a chance to learn about the gospel and then deny it.
It is like Manifest Destiny except that God has an honest right to the world. He made the thing, he can do what he wants with it. He didn't kill them for lack of worship, he killed them because they failed. Time for them to move on. If his focus was entirely on worshipping with the right name then Israel would have had fewer problems. Instead they got the lion's share. God said that the whirlwind coming would start at his house among those who professed him. The LDS will likely be purged first if it makes you feel better :)
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Sethbag wrote:ROFL. It's not enough that we adopt the ancient mythologies of Bronze Age tribes - we have to adopt their barbarity too.
I wonder when a modern-day Joshua will be appointed in the church to lead the hordes of the Elders of Israel in wiping out every man, woman, child, infant, and pet dog and cat of some people whose land the Lord has appointed to the Mormons for an inheritance.
Actually according to the book God is going to do that for us.
Funny, God hasnt done Jack for us so far. What makes you think you have an imaginary friend that will do these things?
Well, there's all the stuff he's done for me already. The money he gave me that I didn't earn or deserve, the revelations fortelling enough of my future to avoid some crippling mistakes, the whole Holy Ghost thing, the teaching. He's done quite a bit. Killing people seems like child's play by comparison.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
dartagnan wrote:So Canada could become the most powerful country in the world...
Until its economy comes crashing down cause it's a bazillion dollars in debt, and everyone who hates it (that is, everyone) moves in to kill the wounded animal... :-P
Actually, I'm a moderate myself. I have a stronger distaste for the radical right than I do the radical left, but I wouldn't want any lefties scratching my back either... if that makes you feel any better. ;-)
dartagnan wrote:So Canada could become the most powerful country in the world...
Until its economy comes crashing down cause it's a bazillion dollars in debt, and everyone who hates it (that is, everyone) moves in to kill the wounded animal... :-P
Actually, I'm a moderate myself. I have a stronger distaste for the radical right than I do the radical left, but I wouldn't want any lefties scratching my back either... if that makes you feel any better. ;-)
-CK
Your political views are very similar to mine, CK.
Must be that California connection.
I live in NC now, but I'll always be a Californian at heart. LOL
The Nehor wrote: Funny, God hasnt done Jack for us so far. What makes you think you have an imaginary friend that will do these things?
Well, there's all the stuff he's done for me already. The money he gave me that I didn't earn or deserve, the revelations fortelling enough of my future to avoid some crippling mistakes, the whole Holy Ghost thing, the teaching. He's done quite a bit. Killing people seems like child's play by comparison.[/quote]
So when Allah, the FSM or invisible pink unicorns help others they are doing...what? Practicing wishful thinkinking?
Why not just chalk up your good fortune to yourself instead of giving cred to your imaginary friend?
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Mercury wrote:So when Allah, the FSM or invisible pink unicorns help others they are doing...what? Practicing wishful thinkinking?
Why not just chalk up your good fortune to yourself instead of giving cred to your imaginary friend?
God answers to the name of Allah, he's not hung up on names. I could chalk it up to me but that would be intellectually dishonest. Many of those gifts came after I asked my imaginary friend for them and he told me they were on the way. So my invisible friend has connections and can get things done. Why just today I was given a quiz in a class I'm taking. It was matching ten items in column A to ten in column B. I pointed out to God that I knew one of them and that was it and I really needed to not fail. So he helped me with some guesswork. Got an 80. Luck? If so, I'm the luckiest guy alive. I could tell you how $5000 fell in my lap, how I won money with a scratch-off ticket to buy Temple Clothing, or how I got an A on a final I never took.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Sethbag wrote:ROFL. It's not enough that we adopt the ancient mythologies of Bronze Age tribes - we have to adopt their barbarity too.
I wonder when a modern-day Joshua will be appointed in the church to lead the hordes of the Elders of Israel in wiping out every man, woman, child, infant, and pet dog and cat of some people whose land the Lord has appointed to the Mormons for an inheritance.
Actually according to the book God is going to do that for us.
Funny, God hasnt done Jack for us so far. What makes you think you have an imaginary friend that will do these things?
Well, there's all the stuff he's done for me already. The money he gave me that I didn't earn or deserve, the revelations fortelling enough of my future to avoid some crippling mistakes, the whole Holy Ghost thing, the teaching. He's done quite a bit. Killing people seems like child's play by comparison.
I don't know what you mean by this Nehor. But I'm Biblically illiterate so maybe that’s why I'm not gettin it.