Calling Daniel Peterson

[_Ray A]

You go, boy! You tell me! Just let all that brilliance loose!

So given my "moderate" stupidity it should be extraordinarily easy for any Mormon with even average intelligence to demonstrate the flaws in my reasoning and points. Go for it. Go read my essays about the Book of Mormon in Mesoamerica and then show everyone how I've gone so stupidly wrong.

http://zarahemlacitylimits.com/wiki/ind ... esoamerica

You should be able to do it with one hand tied behind your back.

Keep bumping the thread up for Daniel and that latest research!

Too bad you lost your spiritual convictions, beastie. If you didn't you'd not be posting all this BS. You just have NIL understanding of the spiritual message of the Book of Mormon, nor it's eventual capacity to be proved true. Do you think the "latest research" will make any difference to my belief in the Book of Mormon? You must live in Noddyland.

[_Paul Osborne]

Good grief, beastie. Do you really think Daniel Peterson is at your beckon call? Who do you think you are sending out smoke signals like this? There ain't no way he is going to respond to your heckling calls. And if he did it would only serve to entertain a boring day at your expense.

Paul O

[_beastie]

Good grief, beastie. Do you really think Daniel Peterson is at your beckon call? Who do you think you are sending out smoke signals like this? There ain't no way he is going to respond to your heckling calls. And if he did it would only serve to entertain a boring day at your expense.

How is asking him to clarify a statement that is confusing a heckling call? How is asking him to clarify a statement thinking he is at my "beck and call"? If there is some new research that supports the existence of the horse during the Book of Mormon time frame, he should proudly share it, no matter who asks, even if it is one of the unwashed.

Too bad you lost your spiritual convictions, beastie. If you didn't you'd not be posting all this BS. You just have NIL understanding of the spiritual message of the Book of Mormon, nor it's eventual capacity to be proved true. Do you think the "latest research" will make any difference to my belief in the Book of Mormon? You must live in Noddyland.

You must live in Noddyland if you think I asked this question with the intent of unsettling your conviction in the Book of Mormon. The only person I had in mind when I asked this question was Daniel Peterson. Your egocentrism in this question is strange. I don't care at all what you think about the Book of Mormon. I care about one thing in regards to the Book of Mormon - providing information that makes it clear that the likelihood that this story took place in ancient Mesoamerica is equivalent to the likelihood that aliens built the ancient Egyptian pyramids. And I care about that issue because I care about ancient Mesoamerica. They had a vibrant, long-term, unique culture that some group of modern Christians have no business hijacking. I also do not care one whit what people go around viewing as messages from God, as long as it doesn't inspire them to commit anti-social acts. You can believe that the Harry Potter books are spiritual messages from God as far as I care.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Paul... :-)

Good grief, beastie. Do you really think Daniel Peterson is at your beckon call? Who do you think you are sending out smoke signals like this? There ain't no way he is going to respond to your heckling calls. And if he did it would only serve to entertain a boring day at your expense.

This statement strikes me as so very odd.

We have a participant on the MB, asking another participant to clarify a statement and share valuable information that may enlighten us all...

Why the mean spirited response?

~dancer~

[_truth dancer]

Hi Ray...

What he was talking about is, most certainly, to be above your anti-Mormon head. Go ahead and score all the "points" you want, and display your "30 book learning" "degree" in "archaeology", but the bottom line is that all you really want to do is prove Mormonism WRONG. And you will do this at your own peril.

This too strikes me as strange.

What is the problem with a participant asking for information?

Dan asserts there is new information, and many of us interested in Mesoamericawould like to know what it is.

Why the hostility!

~dancer~

And just to be clear for folks who may be new to the board... Beastie has NEVER CLAIMED TO BE AN EXPERT in archaeology, nor has she claimed to have some sort of anthropology or archaeology degree. She has been very clear about this. She is very knowledgable and well read about Mesoamerica and reports and sites the EXPERTS in the field. I tire of the false accusation many apologists have used to discredit the information and research Beastie shares.

[_beastie]

I think the hostility likely originates from the fact that both Ray and Paul are probably aware that the chance that Dr. Peterson has legitimate new research to share supporting the existence of the horse during the Book of Mormon time period is about nil. They're just diverting attention from that fact.

[_Paul Osborne]

Oh, actually, ahh, it was the title of the thread "Calling Daniel Peterson" that rubbed me wrong - so I spoke out. Really, I have nothing against Beastie for asking questions and wanting to have a conversation with DCP. It just seems Dan has been awufully busy lately having to defend his position when so many people are out to get him; I was feeling sorry for him. Beastie's thread seemed like an unwelcome phone call. Perhaps the thread could have been titled "Horses in the Book of Mormon", or something like that, then email Peterson and ask for his participation.

I was in a nasty mood. Forgive me.

Paul O

[_christopher]

It just seems Dan has been awufully busy lately having to defend his position ......

Paul O

And perhaps that says mountains about his positions.


Chris <><

[_Polygamy Porter]

Oh, actually, ahh, it was the title of the thread "Calling Daniel Peterson" that rubbed me wrong - so I spoke out. Really, I have nothing against Beastie for asking questions and wanting to have a conversation with DCP. It just seems Dan has been awufully busy lately having to defend his position when so many people are out to get him; I was feeling sorry for him. Beastie's thread seemed like an unwelcome phone call. Perhaps the thread could have been titled "Horses in the Book of Mormon", or something like that, then email Peterson and ask for his participation.

I was in a nasty mood. Forgive me.

Paul O

Whew! Glad to see you found your pills.

[_Ray A]

I care about one thing in regards to the Book of Mormon - providing information that makes it clear that the likelihood that this story took place in ancient Mesoamerica is equivalent to the likelihood that aliens built the ancient Egyptian pyramids. And I care about that issue because I care about ancient Mesoamerica.

And you would not have cared any less about Mesoamerica had you not become a Mormon. The Book of Mormon drove Michael Coe to archaeology, so it can't be all that bad. His opinion of it is also much higher than yours. In his PBS interview he said:

But to be able to carry this through to its logical end, that's amazing. Really, it is. I mean, if it's a work of fiction, nobody has ever done anything like this before. And I think it is fiction, but he really carried it through, and my respect for him is unbounded.

Doesn't sound so dogmatic to me.

I also do not care one whit what people go around viewing as messages from God, as long as it doesn't inspire them to commit anti-social acts.

You mean like calling others "serpents"? And "a generation of vipers"? Or "dogs"? Or "that fox"? I suppose the New Age Jesus, or SNAG Jesus, appeals to you more.

You can believe that the Harry Potter books are spiritual messages from God as far as I care.

I don't. But I understand your deep need to rescue the world from "delusion". You are 100% sure the Book of Mormon is entirely fiction, and you won't rest until you save the world.