Mormon Church edits wikipedia

[_Mercury]

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=216.49.176.0-191.255&ip5=64.80.178.176-183&ip9=66.213.213.96-103

Looks like MormonCorp has been playing dirty in Wikipedia.

Possible SCMC activity? Possibly.

Nonsense, Mercury. We know from a trusted source that the church or its leaders have little if any contact with the internet. Your information is simply incorrect.

Why was the following deleted from Wikipedia?

*sigh* I never doubted it for a second. I was being facetious, Merc. And taking an obviously too-subtle dig at the 'trusted source'.

Sorry Harm, on the reread it does sound to be sarcastic.

My apologies

[_Nephi]

Heh... This is so making a mountain out of a molehill. I mean, wiki is an open encyclopedia online, and is for anyone to edit. The fact that you found an ip that is owned by MormonCorp doesn't really mean much, here. lemme guess, if you found a .gov ip editing some government page, then there (again) must be some conspiracy there?

Honestly, I could care less where the edit came from, but moreso am I worried if the data is correct that is added. Of all the graffiti that happens on wiki on a daily basis, wasting energy or time upon "conspiracy theories" is hardly worth it. I mean, if a corporation is going to pull a conspiracy, why pick wiki?

[_harmony]

Heh... This is so making a mountain out of a molehill. I mean, wiki is an open encyclopedia online, and is for anyone to edit. The fact that you found an ip that is owned by MormonCorp doesn't really mean much, here. lemme guess, if you found a .gov ip editing some government page, then there (again) must be some conspiracy there?

Honestly, I could care less where the edit came from, but moreso am I worried if the data is correct that is added. Of all the graffiti that happens on wiki on a daily basis, wasting energy or time upon "conspiracy theories" is hardly worth it. I mean, if a corporation is going to pull a conspiracy, why pick wiki?

Perhaps you aren't aware of a few details:

1. According to Daniel, the church and its leaders are supremely unaware of anything online, and that logically must include wiki. So for the church ISP to be found editing wiki negates what Daniel just said. They are not only aware, they are concerned enough to edit. Several times. So Daniel's position that the church knows virtually nothing about what is said online just took a step backwards, because obviously the church knows enough to make corrections it deems necessary.

2. The church is not interested in "correct" information. Some truths are not helpful, according to a few of our esteemed leaders. The church wants faith-promoting information only. So you see why their edits on wiki are both problematic and amusing? If they're editing out correct information (such as the prayer circle informationm which was exactly correct) in favor of only faith-promoting information, that makes wiki an extension of the COB, not a source of unrestricted information.

3. If the government were attempting to edit out accurate information, then the answer to your question would like be in the affirmative. It's not like the edits are concerned with correcting inaccurate information; they're concerned with inserting faith-promoting information only.

[_Jason Bourne]

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=216.49.176.0-191.255&ip5=64.80.178.176-183&ip9=66.213.213.96-103

Looks like MormonCorp has been playing dirty in Wikipedia.

Possible SCMC activity? Possibly.

What is the big deal. If I understand how Wikipedia works anyone can add, edit and change things. I am not sure how reliable it is though if it is fair game to anyone who wants to change it.

[_harmony]

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=216.49.176.0-191.255&ip5=64.80.178.176-183&ip9=66.213.213.96-103

Looks like MormonCorp has been playing dirty in Wikipedia.

Possible SCMC activity? Possibly.

What is the big deal. If I understand how Wikipedia works anyone can add, edit and change things. I am not sure how reliable it is though if it is fair game to anyone who wants to change it.

The quote about the prayer circle was exactly correct, Jason. Why change something that is exactly correct?

[_Jason Bourne]

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=216.49.176.0-191.255&ip5=64.80.178.176-183&ip9=66.213.213.96-103

Looks like MormonCorp has been playing dirty in Wikipedia.

Possible SCMC activity? Possibly.

What is the big deal. If I understand how Wikipedia works anyone can add, edit and change things. I am not sure how reliable it is though if it is fair game to anyone who wants to change it.

The quote about the prayer circle was exactly correct, Jason. Why change something that is exactly correct?

I think it is pretty clear why the Church would edit anything that that it can that is public about the temple.

[_Mercury]

Heh... This is so making a mountain out of a molehill. I mean, wiki is an open encyclopedia online, and is for anyone to edit. The fact that you found an ip that is owned by MormonCorp doesn't really mean much, here. lemme guess, if you found a .gov ip editing some government page, then there (again) must be some conspiracy there?

Honestly, I could care less where the edit came from, but moreso am I worried if the data is correct that is added. Of all the graffiti that happens on wiki on a daily basis, wasting energy or time upon "conspiracy theories" is hardly worth it. I mean, if a corporation is going to pull a conspiracy, why pick wiki?

Wow, umm, What conspiracy?

I prefer to think of it as a cabal, a caras or whatever the hell you want to call it. A mutual agreement by several parties to allow certain activities. Looking at the activity this is likely several individuals coming from a network behind a NAT. Surprisingly, I have now found the magic IP and am going over my previous logs. this is possibly the COB's IP for all web traffic. Hell, for all we know it might be coming from a family history center in provo.

Of all the church IT guys I have met they all have been assholes.

[_Mercury]

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=216.49.176.0-191.255&ip5=64.80.178.176-183&ip9=66.213.213.96-103

Looks like MormonCorp has been playing dirty in Wikipedia.

Possible SCMC activity? Possibly.

What is the big deal. If I understand how Wikipedia works anyone can add, edit and change things. I am not sure how reliable it is though if it is fair game to anyone who wants to change it.

Its a gray area. Is it right for the Church of scientology to dress up a Scientology page? Why did they remove the section I showed to Harmony?

Ethics Jason, not morals.

[_Mercury]

lol - I like this edit to the "CTR" page:

I took out a very offensive phrase that had been added calling the Mormons "nasty mother f#####Relief Society who must be stopped." It is absolutely inappropriate and downright offensive!!!!

And it was. Rightful edit.

[_Nephi]

Perhaps you aren't aware of a few details:

Enlighten me, oh great one...

1. According to Daniel, the church and its leaders are supremely unaware of anything online, and that logically must include wiki. So for the church ISP to be found editing wiki negates what Daniel just said. They are not only aware, they are concerned enough to edit. Several times. So Daniel's position that the church knows virtually nothing about what is said online just took a step backwards, because obviously the church knows enough to make corrections it deems necessary.

OMG! The church must not be true, then! Daniel must know everything about the church (thank God). Great conclusion here...

2. The church is not interested in "correct" information. Some truths are not helpful, according to a few of our esteemed leaders. The church wants faith-promoting information only. So you see why their edits on wiki are both problematic and amusing? If they're editing out correct information (such as the prayer circle informationm which was exactly correct) in favor of only faith-promoting information, that makes wiki an extension of the COB, not a source of unrestricted information.

Its wikipedia. First of, its changable, secondly, it has a good chance of NOT being accurate. Finally, as for the prayer circle, temple rituals are sacred (like what goes on in people's bedrooms. Its okay to go online to get an idea of what happens in there, but there is no reason to go into detail for those who are not a part of the sacredness of it.

3. If the government were attempting to edit out accurate information, then the answer to your question would like be in the affirmative. It's not like the edits are concerned with correcting inaccurate information; they're concerned with inserting faith-promoting information only.

Religious things tend not to be "provable" and therefore subject to a large amount of interpretation, therefore the idea of "accurate information" when speaking of religion on wiki is debatable, Mormon or not.

Wiki isn't perfect. It is very fallible, and to get upset that there might be information on it which is incorrect when you can go edit it yourself if you so desire makes no sense... Its like the kid who wants a sucker right in front of them, but they wish to complain that someone took it away from them at first. Either edit it or don't. No reason to complain that someone else edited it, regardless where they came from.