Mike Parker says Neville is trying to blackmail him

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MormonDiscussionInc wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:20 pm
My comment on Parker's blog that are questions he contradictions he can clear up and questions he can answer though I expect he will not publish my comment(s):
I will be shocked if he publishes your comment. The Mopologists cannot function without censorship.
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Marcus wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:50 pm
To me, that was clear evidence Parker acted like he was Nygren, until he was found out.
Bingo. He could have said, "Although there is some confusion regarding my identity, I will correct . . . . " Instead, he acts as though he is Richard Nygren.

Yikes.
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dastardly stem wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:09 pm
Its likely someone will call you racist if you say much of anything about race these days. That he and his partners didn't realize that its not really Bill's problem, nor anyone elses. If that hurts his feelings, and he has half an awareness of anything beyond himself, he would have called his friend, whoever said it, and told him to correct the lie quickly. That he didn't do that, or something like it, also isn't Bill's fault.
Not only did he not do that, he acted as though he were Nygren. So, uh, yeah. That's a real problem.

It is definitely the behavior of someone who does not understand what you understand. It is the behavior of someone who is tone deaf at the very least.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:40 pm
—He seems to misunderstand what Reel and Pynakker were saying about him specifically. They were careful to emphasize that they *don’t* think he’s a “racist,” but, rather, he *is* guilty of failing to clear the air. Parker didn’t seem to care if people mistakenly believed Boylan’s explanation. Reel and Pynakker describe Parker as “tone deaf.”
Not at all. No misunderstanding. This is the Mopologetic tactic of misconstruing what your opponent does in the worst possible way. Bill is fair and objective in his handling of the Nygren issue, so Parker has a fit and dishonestly accuses Reel of doing something he did not do. This is because he knows his audience will not investigate and that they are eager to believe that an "anti-Mormon" would behave unfairly.
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Someone should take Parker's computer and phone away for a while. He's going full Charlie Sheen: "Look what I'm dealing with, man, I'm dealing with fools and trolls!" "Boom, crush. Night, losers. Winning, duh."

- How can Parker be confident to "categorically state" that no one mentioned in Reel's video ever made a fake Nygren profile anywhere? Sure, they've all denied it. But can he be SO sure that Boylan never made one on the sly? Or Smoot? For that matter, how can Parker expect anyone to believe he didn't make a Nygren profile just for fun? After all, Parker DID respond directly to Pynakker's request for Richard Nygren to fix a mis-quote on NNL.

- Parker is 100% lying when he denies "Reel's spin that I or anyone else 'perpetuated a fictional black apologist'..." Uh, Mike Parker a.k.a. Peter Pan totally perpetuated the fictional identity of a black apologist named Richard Nygren. See the point above, which was documented very clearly and plainly in Reel's video. It was one of the most damning pieces of evidence in the whole video, and by the way it was Pynakker who brought that to Reel's attention.

- This bit from Parker is so ironic, I can't stop looking at it.
Mike Parker (referring to a sentence in Neville's blog post) wrote: Just about every word of that sentence is false.

There were no “prominent members” of anything involved with the creation and maintaining of this blog; it was solely my idea, and I alone am responsible for it.
Does anyone else see the irony here? Mike Parker says everything Neville wrote somewhere is false, and then the next thing Mike Parker writes is a lie. He claims no one else was involved in the NNL blog, "I alone am responsible for it." Uh... Mike? What about Captain Hook, a.k.a. Stephen Smoot? Care to retract or revise your statement, sir? The parody writes itself.

- I am dying to see the language Louis Midgley and Dan Peterson use to support Mike's wonderful defense of anonymous online pseudonyms, "I’m afraid to tell him that many blogs are pseudonymous, many famous authors have written under pseudonyms, and even many early American Founders wrote pseudonymously." Pseudonyms for everyone!

- Parker blames Neville for not complaining sooner that NNL besmirches Neville's family name. And turns that legitimate complaint around to make Neville at fault, both for not complaining sooner, and for bringing it up now to "criticize" Parker. Classic bullying tactic. Doctor Scratch accurately predicted an unrepentant Parker.
Mike Parker wrote:This is the first time that Neville has alleged that the name Neville-Neville Land “ridicules [his] family name.” It’s strange that he’s waited this long to make an issue about it; this blog has existed for over four years, and only now he’s bringing this up? It seems to me that he’s desperately seeking some opportunity to criticize me.
Parker, if you're reading this, kindly educate yourself by referring to the material at: https://www.verywellfamily.com/reasons- ... ell-460784

- Hats off to Neville for making the offer to reconcile. Taking NNL offline SHOULD be done, because the whole site is a personal attack (starting with its name), and Neville is ready to let bygones be bygones. How can Mike, a self-proclaimed "latter-day saint" not see the invitation to deescalate and make amends here? Instead, like a good middle school bully, he takes the olive branch and shoves it in Neville's eye, calling Neville's offer "hypocrisy," "as he is clearly an unprincipled individual." How small.

- April 3, 2023
Mike Parker wrote:My decision at this point is to simply try harder to understand and live the Savior’s teaching in Matthew 5:43–45.
Matthew 5:44 wrote:Love your enemies...
- April 20, 2023
Mike Parker wrote: The blog stays up.
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Mike Parker wrote:Jonathan Neville has explicitly threatened me that, unless I delete my entire blog, he’ll go on anti-Mormon podcasts and attack me and my character.
Mike Parker,

If Jonathan doesn't attack your character, rest assured that I will. Your racism, dishonesty, hypocrisy and disgusting behavior deserve to be exposed for everyone to see.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:28 pm
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How can Mike, a self-proclaimed "latter-day saint" not see the invitation to deescalate and make amends here?
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I think that one word may explain it: pride.

He has poured 4 years of his life into the blog, and has gained the respect and admiration of a bunch of people that, perhaps, he wanted to impress.

To delete it now would be a terrible blow.
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Actually, now that I mention it, the whole bunch of them look to me like 'proud boys'.
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malkie wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:19 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:28 pm
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How can Mike, a self-proclaimed "latter-day saint" not see the invitation to deescalate and make amends here?
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I think that one word may explain it: pride.

He has poured 4 years of his life into the blog, and has gained the respect and admiration of a bunch of people that, perhaps, he wanted to impress.

To delete it now would be a terrible blow.
This is likely the true reason. He did it for clout. I guess it will only come down if pressure is applied from the right source, eg the brethren. Those T.I.T.S. videos stayed up for a while, too, didn't they?
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Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:28 pm
…- This bit from Parker is so ironic, I can't stop looking at it.
Mike Parker (referring to a sentence in Neville's blog post) wrote: Just about every word of that sentence is false.

There were no “prominent members” of anything involved with the creation and maintaining of this blog; it was solely my idea, and I alone am responsible for it.
Does anyone else see the irony here?
Parker’s defense re that “false” sentence had so many moments. I liked this one too:
In his blog post, Neville asserted:
Prominent members of the citation cartel concocted, promoted and perpetuated a fake blogger persona named ‘Peter Pan’ to attack me on an ad hominem blog that ridicules my family name.
Just about every word of that sentence is false.

…By “promoted,” Neville is referring to Daniel Peterson sharing links to this blog on his own site from time to time. He did this not because he’s been involved in the creation or operation of this blog, but because…
So it’s “false” that Prominent members promoted the blog.

And his explanation of why it is “false” is that it is actually “true,” but it’s “true” …for reasons.

You really cannot make this stuff up.
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