The answers aren't simple for me, Failed Prophecy. If they are for you, then they are for you. I gave an answer in that post. It is an incomplete one, but, yes, I did find time to answer.Failed Prophecy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:20 pmYou have time to make lengthy you tube videos but don't have time to type out a one sentence response to a question?
CWK #32: Anti-Mormonism
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I am sure it does factor into it. Some people find the missionaries very annoying. I wouldn't put trying to recruit a plural wife from a marriage into the same category as the missionary service of today. Wesley Walters was within his rights pointing out where he thought the Mormons have things wrong, but I think the manner in which it is done should be temperate and fair, as I think he generally was.Dr Exiled wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:29 pmHow do you think missionary work factors into it? I've had conversations with non-Mormons that point to that as the irritation they feel about Mormonism. Too many sales attempts tend to put people off and missionary work has been there from the beginning. Wasn't Pratt murdered in Arkansas because he was trying to convert a plural wife and the husband didn't like it? Perhaps this is why CoC isn't "persecuted" as much? They keep to themselves it seems. Perhaps don't push it on people and the supposed "persecution" will subside? I believe this is in part and perhaps a big part as to why Dr. Wesley Walters was so motivated to "attack" Mormon beliefs - he didn't like "false" doctrine being preached by so many missionaries, expecially to his flock.
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Anti-Mormon ministries are hilarious to me. They're all just arguing about what band their imaginary friend listens to. That being said LDS leaders are doing a great job putting their worst foot forward and it'll only get worse when Monson passes.
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Nelson has been pretty bad. You think it will get worse? That would be pretty bad.
I take your point about imaginary friends. How I would put it is that faith is a place where there is so much room for uncertainty that to take it so seriously as to endanger the lives of others over it is a huge mistake, in my opinion. This is one reason why I am pro-choice. There is so much disagreement over the details of when to consider a foetus a person that it is ridiculous to insist that one's faith-based conclusion on the matter should be backed up by laws that govern our whole society. That's not how things should work in the sort of secular republic that is able to protect the religious or non-religious views of all.
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I just finished watching your latest and was privileged to give it its first comment and like.
Excellent work as always, Kish!
Excellent work as always, Kish!
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Before I watch this episode of CWK or read any posts subsequent to the OP, I want to say that “ministries” that camp outside GC or events such as the Nauvoo Pageant never have particularly set well with me. It seems to me that this may serve as an impedance of one’s right to pursue religion.
"Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy” Jude 1:24
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“the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7 ESV
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I’ll bring the cheese. Kish is sharing his personal thoughts, which I think we should view as a privilege, as he has not always shared this with us. As a nevermo, I anticipate that somewhere in all of this, I may encounter something that requires of me introspection. Who knows, maybe it will serve as iron sharpening iron as a lot of us have shared our lives with one another online for a couple of decades now.
"Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy” Jude 1:24
“the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7 ESV
“the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7 ESV
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Thanks, RFM! You're the GOAT! If you like it, there must be something worthwhile in it, whatever its flaws in others' eyes.consiglieri wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:42 pmI just finished watching your latest and was privileged to give it its first comment and like.
Excellent work as always, Kish!
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Yeah. I think there is a rudeness to it at the very least. I always felt a little harassed at those times. I did not feel favorable to those I felt were being rude. I preferred being invited to go to church by my Christian friends.msnobody wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:08 pmBefore I watch this episode of CWK or read any posts subsequent to the OP, I want to say that “ministries” that camp outside GC or events such as the Nauvoo Pageant never have particularly set well with me. It seems to me that this may serve as an impedance of one’s right to pursue religion.
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Thanks, msnobody. Please help me hit the right tone, if you would.msnobody wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:44 pmI’ll bring the cheese. Kish is sharing his personal thoughts, which I think we should view as a privilege, as he has not always shared this with us. As a nevermo, I anticipate that somewhere in all of this, I may encounter something that requires of me introspection. Who knows, maybe it will serve as iron sharpening iron as a lot of us have shared our lives with one another online for a couple of decades now.