Was it even considered a crime back then? Outside of murder, how often was abuse really investigated and prosecuted on the American frontier?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:47 pmGiven that Smith married children as young as 14 years old, and other men's wives, and coerced families into giving up their young women with promises of eternal dynastic favour alongside threats of damnation if they didn't, I doubt that there wasn't any child abuse or other abuse types taking place.
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That doesn't make it right. And surely it was considered a crime in the eyes of God? Or is "don't sexually abuse minors" one of those pesky temporary commandments that Oaks spoke about?drumdude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:59 pmWas it even considered a crime back then? Outside of murder, how often was abuse really investigated and prosecuted on the American frontier?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:47 pmGiven that Smith married children as young as 14 years old, and other men's wives, and coerced families into giving up their young women with promises of eternal dynastic favour alongside threats of damnation if they didn't, I doubt that there wasn't any child abuse or other abuse types taking place.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I just mean it’s unlikely that we would have good records of it occurring. The fact that Joseph’s former allies called him out for Fanny Alger was probably the tip of an iceberg we will never see.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:01 pmThat doesn't make it right. And surely it was considered a crime in the eyes of God? Or is "don't sexually abuse minors" one of those pesky temporary commandments that Oaks spoke about?
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I think you’re right.drumdude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:05 pmI just mean it’s unlikely that we would have good records of it occurring. The fact that Joseph’s former allies called him out for Fanny Alger was probably the tip of an iceberg we will never see.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:01 pmThat doesn't make it right. And surely it was considered a crime in the eyes of God? Or is "don't sexually abuse minors" one of those pesky temporary commandments that Oaks spoke about?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.