Utah Leads The Nation (Again) In Mental Illness

[Marcus]

MG, I couldn't agree more. More information is better. Folks can then determine their own thinking based on more information, not less. Including whether or not MG constantly lies, misuses quotes/sources, trolls or has noble intentions here. (Sorry, just had to throw these in there.) Here are just a few of the many threads exposing our MG 2.0. Enjoy:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1156&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1311&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=157138&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=157279&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=159560&hilit=troll

This is fun.

Wow. Once a troll, always a troll. Very consistent misbehavior.

[MG 2.0]

If I want to have a conversation with A.I., I will do it myself.

I find it incredibly rude for me to spend thousands of hours every year reading published medical research, paying hundreds of dollars, and developing relationships with authors to obtain full copies of their studies and the raw data, formulating my own opinions and thoughts, and then to have that met with an A.I. prompt.

My criticism of the Govenor and State Legislature regarding their selective disregard of basic medical and health science and research is wholly valid. If you (not A.I., *you*) want to discuss why that is, the views and legislation, the relevant published studies and meta-analysis, then I am happy to do so.

Otherwise, I'm not going to spend my time and energy sharing my hard-earned opinions and knowledge that I've made a lot of financial, and time sacrifices to obtain, just for you to have an easily manipulated free A.I. model spit out something that gives you warm fuzzies.

Doctor Steuss,
I think many of us here might benefit from some of that hard earned opinion and knowledge if you are willing to share. As it is, for some of us our interests may lie elsewhere and this isn't necessarily a point of expertise. Thus the reliance on information gathering using A.I.

You could, if you desire, share a synopsis and/or summary as to why you think the State of Utah is not tackling the problem of mental health according to the standards that you believe they ought to.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that might be interested in some specifics. The fact that you have spent thousands of hours investigating this topic and spent money doing so is admirable.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor Scratch]

Interesting statistics. It suggests that roughly 1/3 of Mopologists are “afflicted.”

[MG 2.0]

If I want to have a conversation with A.I., I will do it myself.

I find it incredibly rude for me to spend thousands of hours every year reading published medical research, paying hundreds of dollars, and developing relationships with authors to obtain full copies of their studies and the raw data, formulating my own opinions and thoughts, and then to have that met with an A.I. prompt.

My criticism of the Govenor and State Legislature regarding their selective disregard of basic medical and health science and research is wholly valid. If you (not A.I., *you*) want to discuss why that is, the views and legislation, the relevant published studies and meta-analysis, then I am happy to do so.

Otherwise, I'm not going to spend my time and energy sharing my hard-earned opinions and knowledge that I've made a lot of financial, and time sacrifices to obtain, just for you to have an easily manipulated free A.I. model spit out something that gives you warm fuzzies.

Absolutely agree. Absolutely. The imposition of lazy A.I. responses on thread after thread after thread is just obnoxious. Add in that the A.I. responses are edited, the inquiry is not always given, AND that these A.I. responses are frequently not accurate at all, and it's just a waste of time to even read them. Why post nonsense? It's disrespectful in the extreme.

I've been posting the inquiry for all to see. As to editing any responses from A.I., this has been done very rarely in order to clarify something that I believed needing adjustment to make it more clear.

I admit, yes, that using A.I. to gather up information is, in a certain sense, "lazy", but on the other hand it expedites the gathering information exponentially faster than having to do the research on every point of disagreement or what I believe to be incomplete information given by other posters.

Like I said earlier, it's a godsend. Gone are the days when a person...a critic... can make their own stuff up using third person and/or one sided sources (like Mr. Wang did on another thread) and get away with it.

That's a plus in my book.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

MG, I couldn't agree more. More information is better. Folks can then determine their own thinking based on more information, not less. Including whether or not MG constantly lies, misuses quotes/sources, trolls or has noble intentions here. (Sorry, just had to throw these in there.) Here are just a few of the many threads exposing our MG 2.0. Enjoy:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1156&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1311&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=157138&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=157279&hilit=troll

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=159560&hilit=troll

This is fun.

Wow. Once a troll, always a troll. Very consistent misbehavior.

Very consistent false attributions. I wouldn't doubt that most of these lie at your feet. The feet of the one of very few I would most assuredly call a troll.

The shoe fits, Marcus. Own it.

Regards,
MG

[Rivendale]

Absolutely agree. Absolutely. The imposition of lazy A.I. responses on thread after thread after thread is just obnoxious. Add in that the A.I. responses are edited, the inquiry is not always given, AND that these A.I. responses are frequently not accurate at all, and it's just a waste of time to even read them. Why post nonsense? It's disrespectful in the extreme.

I've been posting the inquiry for all to see. As to editing any responses from A.I., this has been done very rarely in order to clarify something that I believed needing adjustment to make it more clear.

I admit, yes, that using A.I. to gather up information is, in a certain sense, "lazy", but on the other hand it expedites the gathering information exponentially faster than having to do the research on every point of disagreement or what I believe to be incomplete information given by other posters.

Like I said earlier, it's a godsend. Gone are the days when a person...a critic... can make their own stuff up using third person and/or one sided sources (like Mr. Wang did on another thread) and get away with it.

That's a plus in my book.

Regards,
MG

Indeed.

."Gone are the days when a student asked an honest question and a teacher responded, 'Don't worry about it!' Gone are the days when a student raised a sincere concern and a teacher bore his or her testimony as a response intended to avoid the issue,"

[MG 2.0]

Let's not go too far off with the "troll" thing that some here want to focus on. It's off topic and I would like to hear from Dr. Steuss.

Regards,
MG

[Dr. Sunstoned]

More information is always better, right Mr. Wang? (think and ponder about Heber C. Kimball and abortion...)

Regards,
MG

You did see this part didn't you?

2. Cultural and Social Pressures

Utah’s strong focus on family, religion, and community can create pressure to conform to social expectations, leading to feelings of isolation for those who feel they don’t fit the traditional mold.

There is a cultural stigma around discussing mental health struggles and seeking help, which can prevent individuals from reaching out and exacerbate feelings of failure or inadequacy.

The “quest for perfection” and reluctance to show weakness are frequently cited as contributing factors.

[MG 2.0]

More information is always better, right Mr. Wang? (think and ponder about Heber C. Kimball and abortion...)

Regards,
MG

You did see this part didn't you?

2. Cultural and Social Pressures

Utah’s strong focus on family, religion, and community can create pressure to conform to social expectations, leading to feelings of isolation for those who feel they don’t fit the traditional mold.

There is a cultural stigma around discussing mental health struggles and seeking help, which can prevent individuals from reaching out and exacerbate feelings of failure or inadequacy.

The “quest for perfection” and reluctance to show weakness are frequently cited as contributing factors.

Yes I did. I think that the information I provided shows that the church has responded to the over emphasis on "just be happy" and extreme perfection bias. It goes to show that even though basic principles of the gospel have value it is important that they be administered and taught appropriately. I think we can all think of a number of examples where this has not been the case from the very inception of the organization of the church right up to the present time.

Learning curves.

Regards,
MG

[sock puppet]

Chicken or the egg? Are the depressed drawn to Mormonism? Or does Mormonism depress its adherents? Of course, there's a third possibility: Mormon missionaries are taught to prey upon the weak and afflicted, including the depressed.